Solving the Biconcave Lens Problem with Reflection and Refraction

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The discussion focuses on solving the biconcave lens problem involving reflection and refraction, specifically with a lens having an index of refraction of 2.00. Participants clarify that parallel rays entering the lens diverge, forming a virtual image, while some rays reflect off the lens surface. The thick lens equation is referenced, and the relationship between the focal length and the radius of curvature is established, leading to the conclusion that the reflected image coincides with the virtual image formed by the lens.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of biconcave lens properties and behavior
  • Familiarity with the thick lens equation
  • Knowledge of reflection and refraction principles
  • Basic grasp of optical sign conventions
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  • Study the derivation of the thick lens equation in detail
  • Learn about the behavior of virtual images formed by diverging lenses
  • Explore the concept of optical sign conventions in lens systems
  • Investigate the effects of varying indices of refraction on lens performance
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Here's the problem:

Parallel rays along the central axis enter a biconcave lens, both of whose radii of curvature are equal. Some of the light is reflected from the first surface, and the remainder passes through the lens. Show that, if the index of refraction of the lens (which is surrounded by air) is 2.00, the reflected image will fall at the same point as the image formed by the lens.

Here's what I understand:

I know what a biconcave lens looks like, and how it behaves (for the most part). Of course I know that the index of refraction is ~1.00. And since the radii are equal that makes the equation somewhat easier. The thick lens equation is:
timg239.gif

(Sorry I am not yet familiar with LaTex, so just *imagine* that (1/R1)-(1/R2) isn't there).

What I don't understand:

Where is the image diverging from? "Parallel rays from the central axis convirge into a reflected and transmitted image"..does this just mean where the rays convirge?

Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks as always!
 
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NutriGrainKiller said:
Here's the problem:



Here's what I understand:

I know what a biconcave lens looks like, and how it behaves (for the most part). Of course I know that the index of refraction is ~1.00. And since the radii are equal that makes the equation somewhat easier. The thick lens equation is:
timg239.gif

(Sorry I am not yet familiar with LaTex, so just *imagine* that (1/R1)-(1/R2) isn't there).

What I don't understand:

Where is the image diverging from? "Parallel rays from the central axis convirge into a reflected and transmitted image"..does this just mean where the rays convirge?

Any guidance would be appreciated. Thanks as always!
So, can we reduce the equation to

1/f = d/2R^2

For parallel incoming rays the "object" is at infinity and the reflected image is a point. For spherical reflectors this point is half a radius from the surface. I'm not sure I follow the sign convention for the formula, and it's not immediately clear to me how the "transmitted image" will appear. A biconcave lens would form a virtual image, and with thin lenses that would mean a negative focal length. I know that not all sign conventions are the same, so maybe all is OK. I can see how the "transmitted image" could mean the virtual image of the diverging lens. It's not obvious that d has no effect on the position of the virtual image, but maybe that is the point of the problem
 
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