Solving the Laplace Nightmare: Inverse Transform of an RL Circuit

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The discussion revolves around the inverse Laplace transform of an RL circuit subjected to a square wave input. Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including analytical and numerical techniques, while addressing the complexities involved in the transformation process.

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  • One participant presents a series RL circuit with a square wave input and derives an expression for the Laplace transform of the circuit's response.
  • Another participant suggests that a closed form for the inverse transform may not exist and proposes several methods, including multiplying by an exponential and using asymptotic behavior.
  • A third participant expresses doubts about the applicability of the stationary phase approximation in the context of the inverse transform, questioning the validity of the proposed method.
  • A later reply defends the use of stationary phase, arguing that contour deformation in integration can yield significant contributions to the integral.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the existence of a closed form for the inverse transform or the validity of the proposed methods, indicating ongoing disagreement and uncertainty regarding the best approach.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the applicability of various mathematical techniques, particularly in relation to the stationary phase approximation and the behavior of the integral involved in the inverse transform.

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** disclaimer - not homework ** =)

Is the following correct?

I have a simple series RL circuit with a square wave input (periodic) defined by:

Code:
e(t) = {10 0 <= t < 2
       { 0 2 <= t < 4
With a period of 4

E(s) = 1/(1-exp(-2as) * int (0 -> 2) exp(-st) f(t) dt

Here the period = 2a thus a = 2

E(s) = 1/(1-exp(-4s) * int (0->2) exp(-st) (10) dt
E(s) = 1/(1-exp(-4s) * 10 * exp(-st)/-s | 0 -> 2
E(s) = 10/s * (1-exp(-2s)/(1-exp(-4s)


Since this is an RL circuit, the equation is

E(s) = I(s) (R + sL)
thus,
I(s) = E(s) / (R+sL)
= 10/s * (1-exp(-2s)/(1-exp(-4s)(R+sL)
= 10 / (s * (R+sL) * (1+exp(-2s))


Now, I don't have a transform where the exponent is on the bottom - how do I get the inverse laplace transform?
 
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I don't know that a closed form exists for the inverse transform but you can try one of the following.

(i) Multiply numerator and denominator by exp(s) giving an exponential in the numerator and cosh(s) in the denominator - then scour the tables!

(ii) Try developing the asymptotic behavior of the inverse transform using the stationary phase approximation.

(iii) Try to find the inverse by numerical means.

Good luck!
 
Tide said:
I don't know that a closed form exists for the inverse transform but you can try one of the following.


(ii) Try developing the asymptotic behavior of the inverse transform using the stationary phase approximation.



Good luck!

i have doubts about your (II) quote in fact if we make a change of variable s=c+ix we have the next integral (but a factor 2pi):

[tex]\int_{R}dxF(c+ix)e^{ixt}[/tex] with R=(-oo,oo) how do you apply

in that case the "Asymptotic" behavior?...note that exp(ixt) is complex and Laplace method won,t work at all.
 
How does that rule out stationary phase? We are free to deform the contour of integration in any manner we choose and find the portion that gives the greatest contribution to the integral.
 

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