Solving the Limiting Issue: sin(x) / (π - x)

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[tex]x\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}pi[/tex] sin(x) / (pi - x)

Sorry about the awkward looking notation, trying to understand how to use this stuff ^^

Anyways, any idea on how I can solve this? I am totally stumped. I know that sin(x) / x is one, but that damn pi symbol totally throws me :P

Thanks ^^
Adrian
 
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adoado said:
[tex]x\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}pi[/tex] sin(x) / (pi - x)

Sorry about the awkward looking notation, trying to understand how to use this stuff ^^

Anyways, any idea on how I can solve this? I am totally stumped. I know that sin(x) / x is one, but that damn pi symbol totally throws me :P

Thanks ^^
Adrian

Hi Adrian! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(have a pi: π :smile:)

Two methods:

i] since you know the limit for sin(x)/x, just put y = π - x :wink:

ii] use the same method that you would have used to find sin(x)/x :smile:

(oh … and to get [tex]x\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}\pi \frac{sin x}{\pi - x}[/tex],

type [noparse][tex]x\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}\pi \frac{sin x}{\pi - x}[/tex][/noparse])
 
Well that's actually indeterminant, isn't it?
 
Feldoh said:
Well that's actually indeterminant, isn't it?
Since sin(x)/x is not "indeterminant" why would sin(x)/(pi- x) be? Just putting x= pi gives the "indeterminant" 0/0 which just means we can't do that to find the limit. There is nothing "indeterminant" about the limit.

adoado, you can also use sin(pi- x)= - sin(x) to rewrite sin(x)/(pi- x) as -sin(pi- x)/(pi-x). NOW replace "pi- x" by "y".
 
You don't need "\stackrel":


[tex]\lim_{x\rightarrow\pi} \frac{\sin(x)}{\pi - x}=1[/tex]
 
HallsofIvy said:
Since sin(x)/x is not "indeterminant" why would sin(x)/(pi- x) be? Just putting x= pi gives the "indeterminant" 0/0 which just means we can't do that to find the limit. There is nothing "indeterminant" about the limit.

adoado, you can also use sin(pi- x)= - sin(x) to rewrite sin(x)/(pi- x) as -sin(pi- x)/(pi-x). NOW replace "pi- x" by "y".

I meant that since it's in an indeterminant form, 0/0, l'hopital's rule comes into play.
 
I mean you can use L'Hopital's rule to solve this. Either way is straight forward, but sometimes it's nice to know more than one way to solve a problem.
 
Hello ^^

Thanks everyone, I think I understand it now. And thanks for the syntax corrections :P

And about l'hospital's Rule, indeed I have not learned it but its a good thing to know ;)

Thanks,
Adrian