Solving the Mystery of the Pigeon-Seeking Fall: Acceleration Calculations

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the acceleration experienced by a person who falls a distance of 44.6 m and lands on a garbage can, which is crushed to a depth of 0.422 m. The context is within the subject area of kinematics and energy conservation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial calculations of acceleration during free fall and the subsequent impact with the garbage can. There is a suggestion to use conservation of energy to analyze the situation, with questions raised about the necessity of knowing the original size of the garbage can to calculate work done.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of conservation of energy, but there are still questions about the assumptions related to the garbage can's dimensions and the calculations involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential need for additional information regarding the garbage can's original size to fully understand the work done in the collision. There is an emphasis on the conversion of gravitational potential energy into work during the impact.

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Homework Statement


A very silly person, intent on catching pigeons on the roof of an apartment building, trips and falls a distance of 44.6 m. She lands on a metal garbage can, crushing it to a depth of 0.422 m and walks away without having been seriously hurt. What acceleration did she experience during the collision?


Homework Equations


(see solution attempt)
and
d=v1t+1/2at2


The Attempt at a Solution


This is what I have so far for the first part of the problem (her acceleration, velocity, and position when she is free falling for 44.6m):
a=-9.81
v=-9.81t
d=-4.905t2+44.6

But I'm not sure how to factor in the acceleration of her crushing the garbage can...

Any help would be awesome!
 
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Conservation of energy would be better for this problem

Her gravitational pe is converted into the work done in crushing the can to the depth of 0.422m
 
rock.freak667 said:
Conservation of energy would be better for this problem

Her gravitational pe is converted into the work done in crushing the can to the depth of 0.422m

But wouldn't I need to know the original size of the garbage can to calculate the work required to crush it?
 
GuitarHero said:
But wouldn't I need to know the original size of the garbage can to calculate the work required to crush it?

I don't think you would, the can is crushed to that depth d, so W=Fd.
 

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