Solving the Train Length Ratio Puzzle

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The discussion centers on solving the Train Length Ratio Puzzle involving two trains, A and B, moving towards each other at a relative speed of 0.8c. Observers on train A note that the time taken for the passing of the trains is 20% longer than what is observed from train B. The key equations used include time dilation and length contraction formulas: T' = Tsqrt(1-(v/c)^2) and L' = Lsqrt(1-(v/c)^2). The solution requires analyzing the sequence of events from both trains' perspectives to determine the ratio of the lengths of the trains.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of special relativity concepts, particularly time dilation and length contraction.
  • Familiarity with the equations T' = Tsqrt(1-(v/c)^2) and L' = Lsqrt(1-(v/c)^2).
  • Ability to analyze sequential events from different reference frames.
  • Basic knowledge of relative velocity in physics.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the implications of time dilation in special relativity.
  • Learn how to apply length contraction in various scenarios.
  • Explore the concept of simultaneity in different reference frames.
  • Practice solving problems involving relative motion and Lorentz transformations.
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Students of physics, particularly those studying special relativity, and educators looking for practical examples to illustrate the concepts of time dilation and length contraction.

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Homework Statement



Two trains, A and B, are moving towards each other with relative speed 0.8c. The
passing of the two trains (from when their fronts align to when their backs align) takes 20%
longer as observed from train A as is does as observed from train B. What is the ratio of the
length of A to the length of B?

Homework Equations



I am guessing:
T'=Tsqrt(1-(v/c)^2)
L'=Lsqrt(1-(v/c)^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



I am confused, I feel like there is missing information?

I am trying to relate these two equations! but I am really not sure how to go about solving this one! please help. just so i know where to start...
 
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Let LA represent the length of train A in its own rest frame, and let LB represent the length of train B in its own rest frame. Let v be the relative velocity.

The observers on train A focus on 3 sequential events:
1. The front of train B aligns with the front of train A.
2. The front of train B aligns with the rear of train A.
3. The rear of train B aligns with the rear of train A.

Draw diagrams of these three events.

Knowing the rest length of train A and the relative velocity of the trains, what is the time interval between events 1 and 2 (as reckoned by the observers on train A)?
What is the length of train B as reckoned by the observers on train A, knowing the rest length of train B and the relative velocity of the trains?
Knowing the length of train B as reckoned by the observers on train A and the relative velocity of the trains, what is the time interval between events 2 and 3 (as reckoned by the observers on train A)?
As reckoned by the observers on train A, what is the time interval between events 1 and 3?
Now, do the same analysis for the observers on train B. As reckoned by the observers on train B, what is the time interval between events 1 and 3?
 

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