I Relativity of Simultaneity and Length Contraction

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the relativity of simultaneity and length contraction in special relativity. It is established that while the relativity of simultaneity is crucial for understanding length contraction, they are not the same phenomenon. Length contraction results from the geometry of spacetime and requires consideration of time dilation and simultaneity together. The Lorentz transformation encapsulates these concepts, linking time and length in different frames. Ultimately, a comprehensive understanding of special relativity involves recognizing how these effects interrelate within the framework of spacetime geometry.
  • #51
DrGreg said:
I was brought up to use ##\sin^{-1}## etc. I think that might be a U.K. vs U.S. thing.
My "beef" with that is the risk of confusion between csc and asin. After all, we write ##\sin^2(x)## implying the square of the sine so interpreting ##\sin^{-1}(x)## as ##1/\sin(x) = \csc(x)## is not a long shot.
 
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  • #52
Orodruin said:
My "beef" with that is the risk of confusion between csc and asin. After all, we write ##\sin^2(x)## implying the square of the sine so interpreting ##\sin^{-1}(x)## as ##1/\sin(x) = \csc(x)## is not a long shot.
I agree, there is an inconsistency in the notation.
 
  • #53
In discussions with physics teachers, rapidity is (sadly) sometimes considered an advanced topic.
(See https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...etime-physics-by-wheeler.1004722/post-6513631 )

In typical problems, one doesn't need the value of the rapidity.
One can get by with ratios:
"##\beta=\tanh\theta=\frac{OPP}{ADJ}=\rm (slope)##" and
"##\gamma=\cosh\theta=\frac{ADJ}{HYP}##" and
"##\beta\gamma=\sinh\theta=\frac{OPP}{HYP}##".
One just needs to know how to recognize Minkowski-right-triangles in a spacetime diagram,
then generalize the familiar formulas for "trig-functions as ratios of right-triangle-legs".
 
  • #54
robphy said:
In discussions with physics teachers, rapidity is (sadly) sometimes considered an advanced topic.
Some people have little respect for properly using an additive parameter for their continuous one-parameter groups … sigh
 
  • #55
Orodruin said:
Some people have little respect for properly using an additive parameter for their continuous one-parameter groups … sigh
##\xi## ?:wink:

Some people prefer to use a parameter, which is actually non-additive,
but treat it as additive [due to inappropriate extrapolation].

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