Solving Tricky Pauli Matrices with Einstein Notation

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The discussion centers around the calculation involving Pauli matrices and their properties within the context of 4x4 matrices in SL(2,C). Participants explore the expansion of the expression K'=AKA^{\dagger} using Einstein summation notation and the implications of certain transformations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks clarification on how to express K'=AKA^{\dagger} in Einstein notation, particularly regarding the properties of Pauli matrices.
  • Another participant suggests that the answer can be found on Wikipedia, prompting a request for a specific article reference.
  • A participant notes a potential issue with the transformation k'^{a} and its relation to infinitesimal changes, suggesting that more context is needed for clarity.
  • A later reply corrects an index placement error in the transformation and provides additional context regarding the variable d\tau, indicating it represents a change in an affine parameter.
  • The same participant questions the meaning of "product rule" and whether they need to explicitly develop the expression in index notation to recover the matrices A and A^{\dagger} in the trace.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the properties of the Pauli matrices and the correct application of Einstein notation. There is no consensus on how to proceed with the calculation or the interpretation of the transformation.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention potential issues with index placement and the need for more context to fully understand the transformation. The discussion reflects a reliance on specific mathematical properties and definitions that may not be universally agreed upon.

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Hello,
I am trying to recover the following calculation (where [tex]K,A[/tex] are 4x4 matrices in SL(2,C)):

--(start)--
"We expand [tex]K'=AKA^{\dagger}[/tex] in terms of [tex]k^a[/tex] and [tex]k'^{a}=(\delta_a^{b} + \lambda_a^{b} d\tau)k^b[/tex]. Multiplying by a general Pauli matrix and using the relation [tex]\frac{1}{2}tr(\sigma_{a}\sigma_{b})=\delta_{ab}[/tex] yields the expression:
[tex] \lambda_b^{a} = \frac{1}{2}\eta^{ac}tr(\sigma_{b}\sigma_{c}A+\sigma_{c}\sigma_{b}A^{\dagger})[/tex]."
--(end)--

I have been playing with the relations for a while but I guess I miss some knowledge on the properties of Pauli matrices because I don't manage to find the result. In particular, what would the "expansion" of [tex]AKA^{\dagger}[/tex] (which I guess is necessary here?) look like in Einstein summation notation ? Any help would be extremely appreciated!
 
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the answer lies on wikipedia.
 
ryuunoseika said:
the answer lies on wikipedia.

Well, give a link, then :rolleyes:which article? :smile:
 
Well I had of course already checked beforehand the wikipedia page on Pauli matrices (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_matrices) but had not found a relation to solve this problem... So Ryuunoseika, which article are you talking about ?
 
Something here seems either not quite right or incomplete.

If [itex]k'^{a} = \left(\delta_b^{a} + \lambda_b^{a} d\tau \right) k^b[/itex] (careful with index placement) and [itex]d \tau[/itex] is infinitesimal (?), then [itex]k'[/itex] and [itex]k[/itex] differ by an infinitesimal amount, so the transformation is an infinitesimal version of [itex]K'=AKA^{\dagger}[/itex]. Then, the sum in final result could come from the product rule.

I'm just guessing. More context is needed.
 
Dear George,

Thanks a lot for your answer. First, yes sorry I misplaced the indices in the first relation, the correct relation is:
[tex]k'_{a}=(\delta_a^{b} + \lambda_a^{b} d\tau)k_b[/tex]

Concerning [tex]d\tau[/tex], it is actually a [tex]\delta u[/tex], where [tex]u[/tex] is the affine parameter along the trajectory of a photon.

But what do you mean by "product rule" ? Do I have to develop explicitely [tex]AKA^{\dagger}[/tex] in indices notation and try to recover at the end the [tex]A[/tex] and [tex]A^{\dagger}[/tex] which appear in the trace ?
 

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