Solving Trigonometric Equations: TanΘ=4/3

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The discussion revolves around solving the trigonometric equation TanΘ = 4/3 within the interval pi < Θ < 3pi/2. Participants are tasked with finding various trigonometric values, including Sin(2Θ), cos(2Θ), Sin(Θ/2), and Cos(Θ/2).

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  • Participants explore the implications of the tangent value in the third quadrant, questioning the signs of sine and cosine. There is discussion about the correct application of trigonometric identities and the need to find the radius (r) using the identity sin²(θ) + cos²(θ) = 1.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, correcting each other's misunderstandings regarding the signs of sine and cosine in the third quadrant. There is a focus on deriving the value of r and evaluating the trigonometric functions based on the corrected values of sine and cosine.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the calculations and the application of identities, indicating a need for clarification on algebraic manipulations and the relationships between the trigonometric functions.

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Homework Statement



TanΘ = 4/3

pi < Θ < 3pi/2

Find...
a.) Sin(2Θ)

b.) cos(2Θ)

c.) Sin Θ/2

d.) Cos Θ/s

The Attempt at a Solution



So...

The line will be in quadrant III.

Would sin = 4 and cos = 3?
What I used for a.) is ...
a.) Sin(2Θ) = 2sinΘcosΘ
= 2(4)(3)
=24
But the book got Sin(2Θ) = 27/25

What formula should I use? Thanks
 
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CrossFit415 said:

Homework Statement



TanΘ = 4/3

pi < Θ < 3pi/2

Find...
a.) Sin(2Θ)

b.) cos(2Θ)

c.) Sin Θ/2

d.) Cos Θ/s

The Attempt at a Solution



So...

The line will be in quadrant III.

Would sin = 4 and cos = 3?
No. While tan θ = y/x and it is positive in Q III, don't forget that x and y both have to be negative. So x = -3 and y = -4.

Also, sin θ = y/r and cos θ = x/r. You forgot to find r.

CrossFit415 said:
What I used for a.) is ...
a.) Sin(2Θ) = 2sinΘcosΘ
= 2(4)(3)
=24
But the book got Sin(2Θ) = 27/25
You sure that's the book's answer? Because I am getting 24/25.
 
Ahh I meant 24/25, you're right. Thank you. I forgot to add the "r" for sin and cos. But then how would I find r ?.. I know that sin θ = 4/r and cos θ= 3/r ?
 
sin θ = -[/color]4/r and cos θ= -[/color]3/r

Use the identity sin2(θ) + cos2(θ) = 1 to solve for r.
 
CrossFit415 said:
a.) Sin(2Θ)

The line will be in quadrant III.

Would sin = 4 and cos = 3?
Neither sin(θ) nor cos(θ) can ever be larger than 1 or smaller than -1.
CrossFit415 said:
What I used for a.) is ...
a.) Sin(2Θ) = 2sinΘcosΘ
= 2(4)(3)
=24
This answer is too large, for the reason given above.
CrossFit415 said:
But the book got Sin(2Θ) = 27/25

What formula should I use? Thanks
 
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Mark44 said:
sin θ = -[/color]4/r and cos θ= -[/color]3/r

Use the identity sin2(θ) + cos2(θ) = 1 to solve for r.

So that would equal to 25 = 1 ?
 
CrossFit415 said:
So that would equal to 25 = 1 ?
I don't understand what you're asking. Things aren't equal to an equation, and what you show as an equation is not true (i.e. 25 \neq 1).
 
But then how would I use that identity to find "r"? Thanks
 
Substitute -4/r for sinθ and -3/4 for cosθ to get an equation that involves r, then solve for r.
 
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CrossFit415 said:
So that would equal to 25 = 1 ?

CrossFit415 said:
But then how would I use that identity to find "r"? Thanks

Mark44 said:
Substitute -4/r for sinθ and -3/r for cosθ to get an equation that involves r, then solve for r.

Did you do what Mark44 said?

\cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta = 1
\left( \frac{-3}{r} \right)^2 + \left( \frac{-4}{r} \right)^2 = 1

Solve the above equation for r.
 
  • #11
eumyang said:
Did you do what Mark44 said?

\cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta = 1
\left( \frac{-3}{r} \right)^2 + \left( \frac{-4}{r} \right)^2 = 1

Solve the above equation for r.

Yes, I got 25/r
 
  • #12
That's not correct. The r should be squared, and that expression should be equal to something. You can't start with an equation and end up with just an expression. When you "solve for r," you should end up with the equation r=something.
 
  • #13
vela said:
That's not correct. The r should be squared, and that expression should be equal to something. You can't start with an equation and end up with just an expression. When you "solve for r," you should end up with the equation r=something.

r2 = 25
r = sqrt 25
r = 5?

I'm even getting my algebra incorrect lol.
 
  • #14
Yes. So what you have now is sin(θ) = -4/5 and cos(θ) = -3/5. Now you can evaluate sin(2θ) = 2sinθ cosθ.

Do something similar to evaluate cos(2θ).

For sin(θ/2) and cos(θ/2) you're going to need to use the half-angle identities.
 
  • #15
Ahh I see now. Thank you my friends.
 

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