Solving Two Blocks Friction Homework

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The discussion centers on solving a physics homework problem involving a box on a board, where the board is on a frictionless surface. The objective is to determine the minimum force, F_min, required to pull the board from under the box without the box sliding off. Key variables include the coefficient of static friction (mu_s), the masses of the box (m_1) and board (m_2), gravitational acceleration (g), and the length of the board (L). The friction force (F_f) is defined as F_f = mu_s * N, where N is the normal force.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Newton's second law of motion
  • Knowledge of static and kinetic friction coefficients
  • Familiarity with normal force calculations in physics
  • Basic algebra skills for manipulating equations
NEXT STEPS
  • Calculate the normal force (N) acting on the box using N = m_1 * g
  • Derive the expression for the minimum force (F_min) needed to overcome static friction
  • Explore the implications of varying the coefficient of static friction (mu_s) on F_min
  • Review similar physics problems involving friction and motion on frictionless surfaces
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, educators, and anyone studying mechanics, particularly those focusing on friction and motion dynamics in classical mechanics.

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Homework Statement




A small box of mass m_1 is sitting on a board of mass m_2 and length L. The board rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. The coefficient of static friction between the board and the box is mu_s. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the board and the box is, as usual, less than mu_s.

Throughout the problem, use g for the magnitude of the acceleration due to gravity. In the hints, use F_f for the magnitude of the friction force between the board and the box.

Find F_min, the constant force with the least magnitude that must be applied to the board in order to pull the board out from under the the box (which will then fall off of the opposite end of the board).
Express your answer in terms of some or all of the variables mu_s, m_1, m_2, g, and L. Do not include F_f in your answer.


Homework Equations


F_f=mu_s*N
N=mg


The Attempt at a Solution



So i know that the force of friction is mu_s*mg, and i know that the force needs to exceed that, but i don't know what i have to do next to proceed to the answer the book wants. Please help, soon.
 
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I don't know what answer your book wants either, but it looks like it wants some sort of algebraic answer. I would say that Newton's second law is a good place to start. What conditions need to happen for the board to be pulled out?
 

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