Solving Two Lens System: O1, F1, F2, i2, M

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The discussion revolves around a two-lens optical system consisting of a diverging lens and a converging lens. The original poster provides specific values for object distance, focal lengths, and the distance between the lenses while seeking to find the image distance produced by the second lens and the overall lateral magnification of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of image distances for each lens, questioning the signs of the focal lengths and the method for determining the object distance for the second lens. There is a focus on verifying the calculations and understanding the implications of using negative values for the diverging lens.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the calculations and assumptions regarding the lens system. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of focal lengths, and there are multiple interpretations of the calculations being discussed without a clear consensus on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the calculation of object distance for the second lens, as well as the appropriate signs for the focal lengths based on the type of lens. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Homework Statement


Two Lens systems:
Lens one is a diverging lens and lens two is converging

O1 (object distance) = 9.6 cm
Focal length F1= 6.5 cm
distance between the two lenses is 13 cm
F2 = 7.4 cm
Find the image distance i2 for the image produced by lens 2 (the final image produced by the system) and the overall lateral magnification M for the system, including signs.


Homework Equations



1/i + 1/o = 1/f

The Attempt at a Solution



i1 = 20.13 cm
o1=9.6 cm
i2=
o2=1/

i1
(1/6.5) - (1/9.6) = 1/i = 0.049

i1 = 20.129

o2
d = 13 cm
o2 = d - i1 :confused:
o2 = 13 - 20.129
o2 = -7.129 cm

i2

1/i =(1/7.4) - (1/-7.129)
i2 = 3.63 cm


Anyways I keep getting this incorrect but I am not sure what is wrong I think I mess up solving for the object2 but I have no idea.
 
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Where is the image from lens 1 alone? Show how you'd calculate that.
 
Hello neophyte,for your diverging lens the focal length should be given a negative value and for your converging lens it should be given a positive value.
 
Doc Al said:
Where is the image from lens 1 alone? Show how you'd calculate that.

-(1/f) - (1/O) = (1/i)
-(1/6.5) -(1/9.6) = 1/i = 0.258

i1 = -3.87




Dadface said:
Hello neophyte,for your diverging lens the focal length should be given a negative value and for your converging lens it should be given a positive value.

:redface:

d = 13 cm
o2 = d - i1
o2 = 13 +3.875
o2 = 16.875 cm


1/i2 = (1/f) - (1/o2)
1/0.07587 = (1/7.4) - (1/16.875)
i2 = 13.179

Thank you both :smile:
 

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