Solving Undefined Integrals with the Help of Arctan and Integration by Parts"

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The discussion revolves around solving the integral ∫arctg(1/√x)dx, which involves techniques such as integration by parts and the use of derivatives of inverse trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss defining u as arctg(1/√x) and express difficulties in finding the derivative du. There are attempts to apply integration by parts, with some participants questioning the correct application of the derivative formula. Others explore the transformation of the integral and the use of partial fractions.

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Participants are actively sharing their attempts and reasoning, with some providing guidance on derivative calculations and integration techniques. There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to approach the integral, and while no consensus has been reached, several productive lines of inquiry are being pursued.

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Some participants express confusion over the notation and the steps involved in integration by parts and partial fractions, indicating a need for clarification on these concepts. There is also a mention of the importance of parentheses in mathematical expressions.

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Homework Statement



Solve the following integral:

∫arctg(1/√x)dx


Homework Equations



∫u'/1+u^2 = arctg(u)+c
∫u.v' = u.v - ∫ u'.v

The Attempt at a Solution



So , I tried to define u as arctg(1/√x) but I'm having trouble finding the du. The derivate of arctg(1/√x) is -1/2*x^(3/2), so it stays -1/2*x^(3/2)/1-(1/√x)^2 (converting to the derivate u'/1+u^2) ? I was thinking about getting the derivate of arctg(1/√x) and doing this by parts. dv = dx , u = arctg(1/√x)
 
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The derivative of ##\arctan(x^{-\frac 1 2})## is$$
\frac 1 {1+\frac 1 x}\left(-\frac 1 2 x^{-\frac 3 2}\right )=
-\frac 1 2 \frac{x^{-\frac 1 2}}{x+1}$$That might help your integration by parts.
 
LCKurtz said:
The derivative of ##\arctan(x^{-\frac 1 2})## is$$
\frac 1 {1+\frac 1 x}\left(-\frac 1 2 x^{-\frac 3 2}\right )=
-\frac 1 2 \frac{x^{-\frac 1 2}}{x+1}$$That might help your integration by parts.

Thank you, now I got arctg(1/√x)*x - ∫((√x)/2x+2)*x . Do I need to make the integral by parts again?
 
ruiwp13 said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following integral:

∫arctg(1/√x)dx


Homework Equations



∫u'/1+u^2 = arctg(u)+c
∫u.v' = u.v - ∫ u'.v

The Attempt at a Solution



So , I tried to define u as arctg(1/√x) but I'm having trouble finding the du. The derivate of arctg(1/√x) is -1/2*x^(3/2), so it stays -1/2*x^(3/2)/1-(1/√x)^2 (converting to the derivate u'/1+u^2) ? I was thinking about getting the derivate of arctg(1/√x) and doing this by parts. dv = dx , u = arctg(1/√x)

You should not get u'/1+u^2, which reads as
[tex]\frac{u'}{1} + u^2.[/tex] You should have gotten u'/(1+u^2), which reads as
[tex]\frac{u'}{1+u^2}.[/tex] Parentheses are important!

RGV
 
yes, I got this x.arctg(1/√x)+∫x/sqrt(x)*(2x+2) but now I'm having trouble on solving the integral :p any help?
 
ruiwp13 said:
yes, I got this x.arctg(1/√x)+∫x/sqrt(x)*(2x+2) but now I'm having trouble on solving the integral :p any help?
Substitute for √x and use partial fractions.
 
I don't remeber how to use the partial fractions , it's that thing with A/(x-1) * B/(x+1) and A*(x+1)*B(x-1) thing? Can't remember quite well
 
ruiwp13 said:
I don't remember how to use the partial fractions , it's that thing with A/(x-1) * B/(x+1) and A*(x+1)*B(x-1) thing?
It's that thing where you have one polynomial divided by another, P(x)/Q(x). You rewrite it as a sum of simpler fractions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partial_fractions_in_integration
 
I transformed x/sqrt(x)*(2x+2) into sqrt(x)/2x+2 . Then I passed 2x+2 up and got Int (sqrt(x)*(2x+2)^-1) and multiplied and got Int (1/2sqrt(x)) + Int (sqrt(x)/2) but the second one is incorrect I think... Can't figure out why, tho.

Thanks in advance
 
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ruiwp13 said:
I transformed x/sqrt(x)*(2x+2) into sqrt(x)/2x+2 .
As I indicated, you first need to get rid of the surd by substituting a different variable for √x.
 

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