Solving via Gaussian Elimination

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of equations using Gaussian elimination, specifically the equations: -2a + 5c = 1, a + 2b - c = 2, and 3a - 2b = 3. Participants are examining the steps taken to manipulate the augmented matrix and are questioning the validity of the results obtained.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the steps taken in the Gaussian elimination process, with some questioning the accuracy of specific operations performed on the augmented matrix. There is a focus on verifying calculations and ensuring that operations are applied correctly.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the steps taken, highlighting potential errors in the calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these errors on the final results, with at least one participant expressing a realization of a mistake after receiving guidance.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can provide or the methods they can use. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to identify and rectify errors in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement


Solve the following system of equations using Gaussian Elimination:
-2a+5c=1
a+2b-c=2
3a-2b=3

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


Augmented matrix
(-2 0 5 | 1) R2 → R2 +R1/2
(1 2 -1 | 2) R3 → R3 - 3R2
(3 -2 0 | 3)

(-2 0 5 | 1) Swap R2 and R3
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)
(0 -8 0 | -3)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R2 → -R2/4
(0 -8 0 | -3)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R3 → R3-R2
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R3 → R3*10/3
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R1 → R1-R3
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 0 5 | 7/12)

(-2 0 0 | 5/12)
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 0 5 | 7/12)

therefore a=-5/24, b=3/8 and c=7/60

The problem is a and c satisfy the equation but b does not, not sure what I've done wrong especially since a and c both work. Any help?
 
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-2a+5c=1
-2(-5/24) + 5(7/60) = 10/24+30/60 = 5/12+6/12

so a & c do not work, I would go back and check each of your steps
 
You may not do two operations simultaneously.
 
verty said:
You may not do two operations simultaneously.
?? He didn't.

mad_monkey_j said:

Homework Statement


Solve the following system of equations using Gaussian Elimination:
-2a+5c=1
a+2b-c=2
3a-2b=3

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


Augmented matrix
(-2 0 5 | 1) R2 → R2 +R1/2
(1 2 -1 | 2) R3 → R3 - 3R2
(3 -2 0 | 3)
Your error is here. R3- 3R2, in the third column, would be 0-3(-1)= 3, not 0.

(-2 0 5 | 1) Swap R2 and R3
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)
(0 -8 0 | -3)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R2 → -R2/4
(0 -8 0 | -3)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R3 → R3-R2
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R3 → R3*10/3
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 2 3/2 | 5/2)

(-2 0 5 | 1) R1 → R1-R3
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 0 5 | 7/12)

(-2 0 0 | 5/12)
(0 2 0 | 3/4)
(0 0 5 | 7/12)

therefore a=-5/24, b=3/8 and c=7/60

The problem is a and c satisfy the equation but b does not, not sure what I've done wrong especially since a and c both work. Any help?
 
HallsofIvy said:
?? He didn't.


Your error is here. R3- 3R2, in the third column, would be 0-3(-1)= 3, not 0.

Ahh thanks can't believe I didn't notice it, all works nicely now.
 

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