Something about the property of the integral bother mes

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of improper integrals, specifically the integral of the exponential function from 0 to infinity. Participants are examining the implications of treating \(\frac{1}{\infty}\) as 0 and the proper handling of limits in this context.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the definition of improper integrals and the necessity of limits in their evaluation. Questions are raised about the validity of ignoring limits and the implications of treating \(\frac{1}{\infty}\) as 0.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions and assumptions related to improper integrals. Some participants provide insights into the correct approach, emphasizing the importance of limits, while others express frustration over common misconceptions. The discussion remains open with various interpretations being considered.

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Participants note that the integral from a finite value to infinity is not a traditional Riemann integral but rather a limiting process, highlighting the need for careful consideration of definitions and limits in the evaluation process.

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[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty } e^-^x dx = -\frac{1}{e^x} \Biggr|_0^\infty = 0 + 1 = 1[/tex]

Notice that I abused [tex]\frac{1}{\infty} = 0[/tex].

My question is, when we compute integrals, why do we ignore the fact that [tex]\frac{1}{\infty} = 0[/tex] is not a limit?
 
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A proper way to do this is:

[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty } e^{-x}\,dx[/tex]

[tex]=\lim_{t\to\infty}\ \int_{0}^{\,t} e^{-x}\,dx[/tex]
 
But in most cases, we just throw it out. We don't even care about the limit anymore.
 
But we have matured, & we (A·S·S-U-ME) that we know what we mean by 1/∞ =0. (even when we don;t!) LOL!

Keep up the questioning! -even if you frustrate me & others. You're obviously trying to figure this stuff out !
 
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well an integral from x to infinity is not really a "riemann integral", it is a limiting process of riemann integrals
 
Technically speaking, you can't really throw it out. What SammyS said is the definition of the improper integral.

e^infinity isn't a specific number, so you can't plug in infinity to the primitive. If you don't write it down that's one thing (still a bad habit, though), as long as you understand that that is still what's going on.

For instance,if the problem is finding the integral of (1/x)dx from 0 to 1. You can't just plug 0 into the primitive because 1/(0^2) isn't defined as a number (1/0 doesn't equal infinity. however, we can make 1/x as large as we possibly want by making x sufficiently close to 0, so we say the limit of this approaches infinity); you have to take the limit.
 

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