Sound intensity of a thunderbolt

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SUMMARY

The sound intensity of a thunderbolt 1 km away is calculated to be 26 dB using the formula L = 10 · lg(I/I0) and the assumption that sound dissipates over a distance of 20 km. The calculations involve comparing sound intensities at distances of 1 km and 20 km, leading to the conclusion that the sound intensity decreases significantly over this distance. However, this result is deemed unrealistic, as it suggests that the sound is quieter than a whisper at 1 km, prompting a reevaluation of the assumptions made regarding sound propagation and absorption.

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  • Understanding of sound intensity and decibel scale
  • Familiarity with the equations for sound intensity (L = 10 · lg(I/I0))
  • Knowledge of spherical sound propagation principles
  • Basic grasp of acoustic absorption concepts
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  • Explore practical applications of the equation I = p0²/(2z) in real-world scenarios
  • Investigate the limitations of sound propagation models in open environments
  • Learn about sound intensity measurement techniques and tools
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Homework Statement


Find the sound intensity of a thunderbolt 1 km away. What sound intensity (dB) is it 1 km away? The thunderbolt can be heard up to 20 km away. The sound is spherical. The air absorbs nothing.

Homework Equations


L = 10 \cdot lg(\frac{I_1}{I_0})
\Delta L = 10 \cdot lg(\frac{I_2}{I_1})
I = \frac{p_0 ^2}{2z}
dim(I) = \frac{P}{4πr^2}

The Attempt at a Solution


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I went by the assumption that the sound dissipates at the distance of 20 km. I used equation 4 and found that

I_1 = \frac{p}{4πr_1^2} and
I_2 = \frac{p}{4πr_2^2} with r1 being 1 km and r2 20 km. I divided them and got \frac{I_2}{I_1} = \frac{r_1^2}{r_2^2} = \frac{1}{400} and implemented this in the second equation and got a difference of 26 dB.

This physically makes no sense. How can it be 26 dB difference at a 19 km difference? Whispering is louder. Assuming the sound is completely gone at 20 km, that would mean it's 26 dB at a distance of 1 km away from the lightning. This is obviously wrong and I cannot see the problem with my calculations.
 
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Mulz said:
This physically makes no sense. How can it be 26 dB difference at a 19 km difference? Whispering is louder. Assuming the sound is completely gone at 20 km, that would mean it's 26 dB at a distance of 1 km away from the lightning. This is obviously wrong and I cannot see the problem with my calculations.
Your calculations look correct. Yes, the answer obviously does not correspond to reality. An assumption was made in this problem that might be unrealistic.

See Table B.2 here: https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/pasp/Air_Absorption.html

Or play with some values here: http://resource.npl.co.uk/acoustics/techguides/absorption/
 
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