Sound waves(phase difference) PLS. HELP

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The discussion revolves around sound waves and phase differences, specifically involving two speakers emitting sound at a frequency of 170Hz. The problem requires determining the positions along the x-axis where sound intensity is at a minimum and maximum.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the path difference of sound waves and their interference patterns, particularly focusing on the conditions for minima and maxima. There are attempts to derive equations based on the given parameters, with some questioning the algebraic manipulations involved.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the mathematical relationships involved in wave interference, with participants grappling with the implications of their calculations and the conditions for sound wave behavior.

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sound waves(phase difference) URGENT PLS. HELP

Homework Statement



2 speakers ,in phase, have a frequency of 170Hz [so lambda= 2m; the speed of sound is 340 m/s] As you move along the x axis, where is the sound:
a)a minimum (compared to nearby pts.)
b)a maximum (compared to nearby pts.)

Homework Equations



r2-r1=delta r

The Attempt at a Solution



so for a) i know that there shld be no sound and that occurs the 1st minimum @ lambda/2

so i did r2-r1 =lamda/2
r2=sqrt(64+r1^2) therefore

sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=2/2

and this is where i am stuck everytime i open it up the r1 gets canceled or i have r1^2-r1=-63 ..i'm supposed to be getting an r1= 31.5 m ..please help
 

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brunettegurl said:
so i did r2-r1 =lamda/2
r2=sqrt(64+r1^2) therefore

sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=2/2
So far, so good.

and this is where i am stuck everytime i open it up the r1 gets canceled or i have r1^2-r1=-63
Show how you got this.
 


sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=2/2
sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=1[if i move the sqrt over]
64+r1^2-r1 =1^2
r1^2-r1= -63

the other way i did it was
sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=2/2 [if i take the sqrt ]
8+r1-r1= 1
in the last one r1's cancel leaving me w/8=1
 


brunettegurl said:
sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=2/2
sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=1[if i move the sqrt over]
OK.
64+r1^2-r1 =1^2
(You didn't square the left hand side properly.)

How about:
sqrt(64+r1^2)-r1=1
sqrt(64+r1^2) = 1+r1
(continue...)
 


so if i continue with your line of thinking
sqrt(64+r1^2) = 1+r1
64+r1^2=1+r1^2
but if i move it over to get the like terms together wouldn't the r1's still cancel??
 


brunettegurl said:
so if i continue with your line of thinking
sqrt(64+r1^2) = 1+r1
64+r1^2=1+r1^2
This time you didn't square the right hand side properly.

What's (1 + r1)^2?
(1 + r1)*(1 + r1) = ?

(Work that out.)
 


thank you so much i was beating my head in the whole time and the mistake was so stupid and silly..thanks again
 

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