Soup Can Race Help: Faster & Slower Cans

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the physics of a soup can race, focusing on the characteristics that determine the speed of different types of cans. Participants explore concepts related to mass, moment of inertia, and fluid dynamics, considering both stock and modified cans.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that larger but lighter cans with less dense fluids should be the fastest, questioning this assumption.
  • Another participant argues that for a can to be fastest, it needs greater mass and minimal diameter, explaining the relationship between moment of inertia, mass, and radius.
  • A different viewpoint is raised regarding the effects of sloshing if the cans are not full, indicating a potential factor in their performance.
  • One participant highlights the advantage of liquid-filled cans, noting that the moment of inertia is primarily that of the empty can, suggesting that a heavy but non-viscous fluid would be ideal.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the concept of a 'soup can race,' indicating a lack of familiarity with the event.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views regarding the factors influencing the speed of the cans, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus on the optimal design for the modified cans.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about the effects of fluid density and can shape on performance, as well as the potential impact of the cans being partially filled.

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Soup Can Race: Help!

Later this week my high school physics class is having the traditional soup can race. However, we have four cans to work with:1 stock can that must be the fastest, one stock can that must be the slowest, 1 modified can that must be the fastest, and one modified slower can. If I am not mistaken, the larger but lighter cans, with less dense fluids, should be the fastest, correct? I am in desperate need of suggestions for the modified cans version. The cans can be modified in that materials may be added to them, so long as no sort of motors are attached. :)
 
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For a can to be fastest, it needs a greater mass and minimal diameter. The moment of inertia, which provides resistance to rotation, increases linearly with mass, but quadratically with radius.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/icyl.html#icyl2


Larger cans with less mass will rotate more slowly than smaller cans. Larger cans will also have more air resistance.

To get more mass in a given volume, one must fill the volume with denser material.
 
Astro takes all the fun out of Pinewood Derby car races too...:-p
 
How about sloshing effects if the cans aren't full...
 
Well, let's not forget the advantage that liquid-filled cans have over, say, a can of baked beans. Since the liquid will not rotate initially, the only moment of inertia to consider is that of the empty can. Ideally, a very heavy but very non-viscous fluid would be best, I'd think.
 
What in bloody hell is a 'soup can race'? :confused:
 

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