Space Travel - Lorentz Transformation

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The discussion centers on the Lorentz transformation in the context of two spaceships, Alpha and Delta, traveling to the star Sirius. Alpha travels at 4/5 c and departs at t = 0, while Delta, traveling at 9/10 c, departs one year later. Calculations reveal that from Earth's perspective, Delta never overtakes Alpha, taking 21.92 years compared to Alpha's 17.92 years. The discussion also addresses the complexities of speed and length contraction from different frames of reference, emphasizing the need for precise calculations in special relativity.

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Space ship Alpha travels at t = 0 and v = 4/5 c to the star Sirius which is 8.6 light years away. One year later spaceship Delta starts at v = 9/10 c to the same star.

Question 1:
When does Delta overtake Alpha, as measured from Alpha's, Delta's and Earth's perspective?

Question 2:
At which distance to Earth (measured from Earth's system) does this happen?

Regarding 1:
For Earth's perspective I use \delta t = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-\beta^2}} * \delta t_0. Using that I get to 17.92 years for Alpha and 21.92 years (plus an additional year because the ship left a year later) for Delta. This would mean that from Earth's perspective Delta never passes Alpha.
For Alpha's perspective I use length contraction for the 8.6 light years and then use v = s/t to get the time for 4/5 c and the shortened distance. For Delta's perspective I use the same approach.

Would this be correct so far?

Now my question is regarding Alpha's speed as seen from Delta's perspective and vice versa. Would I just use the speed of the ship relative to the other for this and then also include length contraction? I'm not quite sure how to do this otherwise.

Regarding 2:
From Earth's perspective Delta never overtakes Alpha. In the other systems I guess Delta would pass Alpha. But since there's length contraction involved how would I approach this? Would I just calculate where that point is relative to the entire distance (meaning in %) and then apply that to the distance as seen by Earth?
 
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Hi Icheb,

I think the speeds and distance measured in the problem are measured in Earth's frame of reference, so the times you find will not need to be transformed like you do in your post. Instead I think you'll find that Delta does overtake Alpha in Earth's frame of reference.
 

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