Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around recommendations for books that introduce Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics within the context of special relativity. Participants express interest in resources that highlight the relationship between these frameworks and classical mechanics, including topics like Noether's theorem.
Discussion Character
- Exploratory
- Technical explanation
- Homework-related
Main Points Raised
- Some participants seek recommendations for books that cover Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics in a special relativity context, emphasizing the need for mathematical formalism.
- One participant mentions Susskind's "Special Relativity and Classical Field Theory" as a potential resource.
- Another participant suggests "Special Relativity in General Frames" by Eric Gourgoulhon, particularly chapter 11 on the "Principle of Least Action," suitable for graduate students.
- Several titles are proposed, including "Lagrangian Interaction" by Doughty, "Foundations of Mechanics" by Abraham and Marsden, and "Classical Dynamics: A Contemporary Approach" by Jose and Saletan.
- Additional resources include "Analytical Mechanics for Relativity and Quantum Mechanics" and various papers discussing the derivation of the relativistic Lagrangian and Hamiltonian dynamics.
- One participant shares a link to their attempt at explaining special relativity with action-principle arguments in a Lagrangian framework.
- Another participant notes that concise treatments can be found in quantum field theory textbooks, mentioning Peskin & Schroeder and Landau & Lifshitz as examples.
- There is a request for more elementary treatments, with a participant asking about the level of physics math studied by others.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants generally agree on the need for resources that connect Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics with special relativity, but there are multiple competing views on which specific texts or approaches are most suitable. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best recommendations for different levels of understanding.
Contextual Notes
Some participants express a desire for resources that start from a coordinate-free mathematical formalism, indicating a potential limitation in the available recommendations. The discussion also reflects varying levels of familiarity with the subject matter among participants.