Special relativity - observing spinning objects

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of special relativity on the observation of spinning objects, specifically focusing on how angular velocity and potentially angular momentum may transform when viewed from different inertial frames. The scope includes theoretical exploration and conceptual clarification regarding relativistic effects on rotating systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a thought experiment involving a rotating disc as a clock, suggesting that an observer moving at constant velocity would perceive the disc's rotation as slower due to the effects of special relativity.
  • Another participant agrees with the initial observation, indicating that it seems inevitable that all spinning objects would appear to spin slower from another frame.
  • A participant raises a question about whether angular momentum transforms in a similar manner to angular velocity, expressing some puzzlement over the dimensionality of angular velocity.
  • Further clarification is offered regarding the transformation of the rotation period of a moving object, suggesting it increases by a factor of \(\gamma\), leading to a decrease in rotation speed.
  • One participant concludes that the phenomenon is merely a kinematic effect, expressing agreement with the previous points made in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the observation that spinning objects appear to spin slower from another frame due to relativistic effects. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the transformation of angular momentum and the implications of these transformations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the nature of angular momentum transformations and the specific conditions under which these observations hold true. The mathematical steps involved in the transformations are also not fully resolved.

Mentz114
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I did a thought experiment - suppose we have a simple clock comprising a disc rotating with constant angular velocity. We can read off time inervals by counting the revs.

Another observer, passing at constant velocity will see the disc rotating at a slower rate, since moving clocks run slower.

Does this mean that all spinning objects appear to be spinning slower from another frame ?

In other words, does angular velocity transform like time in SR ?
 
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Mentz114 said:
I did a thought experiment - suppose we have a simple clock comprising a disc rotating with constant angular velocity. We can read of time inervals by counting the revs.

Another observer, passing at constant velocity will see the disc rotating at a slower rate, since moving clocks run slower.

Does this mean that all spinning objects appear to be spinning slower from another frame ?

In other words, does angular velocity transform like time in SR ?

Yes, I think your observation is correct.

Eugene.
 
Hi Eugene,
yes, it seems inevitable. It is a bit puzzling because angular velocity has dimension of reciprocal time.

I wonder if angular momentum transforms the same ?

M
 
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Mentz114 said:
Hi Eugene,
yes, it sems inevitable. It is a bit puzzling because angular velocity has dimension of reciprocal time.

To be more precise, I think that the rotation period of a moving object should increase by the factor [itex]\gamma = (1-v^2/c^2)^{-1/2}[/itex]. Then the rotation speed of such an object should go down, i.e., the factor is [itex]\gamma^{-1}[/itex].

Eugene.
 
Agreed. Nothing to it. It's only a kinematic effect in any case. Thanks for the input.
 

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