What is the Correct Calculation for Sam's Speed at the Bottom of the Slope?

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The correct calculation for Sam's speed at the bottom of a 12-meter slope, considering a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.07, is derived using the formula v = √(2g(h-μk√(L²-h²))). With g set at 9.8 m/s², h at 12 m, and L at 100 m, the accurate speed is 9.9 m/s, not the incorrect 152.36 m/s initially calculated. The error arose from misapplying the order of operations in the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Sam, whose mass is 75 kg, stands at the top of a 12-m-high, 100-m-long snow-covered slope. His skis have a coefficient of kinetic friction on snow of 0.07. If he uses his poles to get started, then glides down, what is his speed at the bottom?

Homework Equations


v = √(2g(h-μk√(L2-h2)))

The Attempt at a Solution


It seems as simple as plugging in the values into the equation, but my result isn't anywhere near what it should be.
From my understanding:
g = 9.8
h = 12m
L = 100m
μk = 0.07

v = √(2(9.8)(12-0.07√(1002-122))) = 152.36
152.36 m/s? That seems a bit much to me. The back of my book says that it is 9.9 m/s, but how do I get there?
What did I mess up on?
 
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defaultusername said:
v = √(2g(h-μk√(L2-h2)))
This is a very specialized formula! (Is this sort of formula supplied for you on exams?)

v = √(2(9.8)(12-0.07√(1002-122))) = 152.36
When I calculate the left side, I don't get 152.36. Make sure you are doing the calculation correctly using your calculator.
 
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Yeah we have to memorize it. I have no idea where it came from lol

When I punch it into my calculator I get the same answer. So I tried breaking it down algebraically as follows.
I still ended up with the same weird number.

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Am I plugging the values into the wrong places?
 
See if you can spot the error in going from the 3rd to the 4th line. "Order of operations" is important here.
 
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Rather than multiply, I take the 11.93th root of 9856?

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When I plug it into my calculator I get the correct answer, but I am concerned that when I do it by hand I am going to mess it up. :/
 
How would you evaluate ##9 - 2 \cdot 3##

You have a subtraction and a multiplication. Which operation should you do first?
 
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Oh! Duh!
Thank you!
 

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