Speed Average Velocity Change Question

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The forum discussion revolves around calculating average speed and velocity in physics problems. A user incorrectly attempted to find average speed by simply averaging two speeds (3.40 m/s and 5.60 m/s) instead of using the formula for average speed, which is total distance divided by total time. The correct average speed for the entire trip is 5.37 m/s. Additionally, the discussion includes a skydiving scenario where the user calculates average velocity and a rocket's ascent and descent, emphasizing the importance of applying the correct kinematic equations.

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  • #31
Nope, it's much simpler than that. If "d" is the one way distance, what's the round trip distance?
 
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  • #32
Doc Al said:
Nope, it's much simpler than that. If "d" is the one way distance, what's the round trip distance?

2d ;) .

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  • #33
Yes (finally!)

Now use the total time and distance to find the average speed.
 
  • #34
Well I did d(1/5.6 + 1/3.4)

I got d(.472).. but I don't know a number for distance so I can't multiply that out..

:(
 
  • #35
You don't need a number for the distance (or the time for that matter). Take the expression for total distance that you found and divide it by the expression for total time.
 
  • #36
Doc Al said:
You don't need a number for the distance (or the time for that matter). Take the expression for total distance that you found and divide it by the expression for total time.

Ok

Expression for total distance = 2d
Expression for total time = d(.472)

2d / d(.472)

d / (.472)
 
  • #37
Kildars said:
Expression for total distance = 2d
Expression for total time = d(.472)
OK.
2d / d(.472)
OK.

d / (.472)
Not OK. What happened?

Ahh... I see what you might have done. Note, in general:
\frac{2a}{a} \ne a
 
  • #38
Doc Al said:
OK.

OK.


Not OK. What happened?

Ahh... I see what you might have done. Note, in general:
\frac{2a}{a} \ne a

(2)(.472) = 4.23

Correct answer, wow thanks.

Could you explain a little bit more how that works? Because without your assistance I wouldn't have been able to get that correct.
 
  • #39
Not sure what I could explain about it further. It looked to me that you were thinking of subtraction instead of division: 2a - a = a, but 2a/a = 2. Big difference.

More important is to revise your problem solving strategy. As this problem illustrates, sometimes you don't need information that you think you need. When in doubt, label the unknown and keep on going!
 
  • #40
I didn't mean the division issue, I meant the whole problem.. :)
 

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