Speed in radial coordinates and angular coordinates

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The discussion focuses on calculating speed in polar coordinates, specifically using the radial coordinate formula r and angular coordinate formula θ. The speed V at an arbitrary time t is derived from the expressions for X and Y, which are defined as X = r*cos(θ) and Y = r*sin(θ). The formula for speed is established as V = √((dX/dt)² + (dY/dt)²), which represents the magnitude of the velocity vector in two dimensions. This approach is grounded in the principles of calculus and vector analysis.

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First off, I am not a physics student. I am a math major taking a maple software course and there is a question that I can not figure out.

The question gives me a radial coordinates r

r:= \frac{a*t^{2}*e^{-b*t}}{1+t^{2}}

And angular coordinates:

θ:=b+c*t^{2/3}

Where a,b,c are real constants.

It then puts the radial and angular coordinates in the form

X:= r*cos(θ)
Y:=r*sin(θ) so it looks like this:

X:=\frac{a*t^2*e^{-b*t}*cos(b+c*t^{2/3}}{1+t^{2}}

Y:=\frac{a*t^{2}*e^{-b*t}*sin(b+c*t^{2/3}}{1+t^{2}}

Which I understand.

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Now the question is calculate speed V at an arbitrary time simplifying as much as possible. This is where I get confused. The question then says to find speed V at time t take

u=(\frac{dX}{dt})^{2}+(\frac{dY}{dt})^{2}

\sqrt{u}

It does not explain why they use that formula to calculate the speed. Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this situation. This is an example in the book so I know this is how you do it or the way they want me to do it, so I am not looking for an answer, just an explanation.

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Thanks for looking.
 
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mrchauncey said:
The question then says to find speed V at time t take

u=(\frac{dX}{dt})^{2}+(\frac{dY}{dt})^{2}

\sqrt{u}

It does not explain why they use that formula to calculate the speed.
Velocity is defined at the rate of change of position, which in one dimension gives
$$
v = \frac{dx}{dt}
$$
In 2D, as for you problem, velocity is a vector, ##\vec{v} = (v_x, v_y)^T##, with
$$
v_x = \frac{dx}{dt}, \quad v_y = \frac{dy}{dt}
$$

Speed is simply the magnitude of the velocity (L2-norm), hence the formula you were given.
 
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Thanks. I actually just found that reading through my old calculus textbook on parametric equations, arc length, and speed. Its been a while since I took calculus and was never the best at speed, velocity and acceleration, etc. My math background has more to do with Actuarial Science and Stats. Once again thanks again. Have a nice day.
 

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