Speed of a disc after a collision

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The discussion focuses on the calculation of momentum change after a collision involving two discs, specifically disc A and disc B. The key equations used include ΔP = Pf - Pi and P = mv, with the final momentum of disc B calculated as Pb = -0.25 and its velocity as vb = -0.365. The conversation highlights the importance of vector direction in momentum calculations and clarifies that the momentum of the system cannot increase without external torque. The correct approach emphasizes analyzing the momentum of disc B independently post-collision.

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Homework Statement


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I understand that if the change in impulse is 0.25, that because disc B is originally stationary the momentum disc B will have is equal to the impulse.

My question is how do we do this in terms of change in momentum?

Homework Equations


ΔP = Pf - Pi
P = mv

The Attempt at a Solution


ΔP = Pf - Pi
0.25 = Pf - (0.517 * 1.21)
Pf = 0.87557

Ps of the system = 0.62557
Ps = Pa + Pb = 0.87557 + Pb = 0.62557
Pb = -0.25
vb = -0.365

Why does this approach give the negative version of the answer?
I know what I've done isn't quite right because (Ps = Pa + Pb = 0.87557 + Pb = 0.62557) essentially states somehow the momentum in the system has increased with no external torque.
 

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Pochen Liu said:
0.25 = Pf - (0.517 * 1.21)
Momentum is a vector. You cannot add and subtract quantities like this unless they are known to be in the same direction. From the diagram, it is clear that the initial velocity of A is at some angle to the impulse.

For part bi) you do not need to consider A at all. Just think about the info you have regarding B.
 
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$$ \vec{P_{ai}} = \vec{P_{af}}+\vec{P_{bf}} $$ and since post collision trajectories are at right angles: $$ \lvert\vec{P_{ai}}\rvert^2 = \lvert\vec{P_{af}}\rvert^2+\lvert\vec{P_{bf}}\rvert^2 $$
 
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