Speed of car dependent on what factors

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The discussion revolves around the factors affecting the speed of a car rolling down a hill, specifically considering scenarios with and without friction. Participants explore concepts related to energy conservation and the impact of various physical parameters such as height, length of the hill, and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants question whether the height and length of the hill influence the car's speed in the absence of friction. There is also a discussion about the assumptions regarding the car's initial state, whether it starts from rest or has a terminal velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance related to the conservation of energy principle, suggesting that the energy at the top of the hill should equal the energy at the bottom if friction is negligible. Others are exploring the implications of friction on energy loss and its effect on the car's speed.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding the initial conditions of the car and the role of friction in the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations and considerations regarding the physical principles involved.

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Homework Statement


Disregarding friction, if a car was rolling down a hill, what would the speed of the car at the bottom of the hill, be dependent on? Either the height of hill, length of hill, rotational inertia or the acceleration due to gravity.

Homework Equations


Without friction wouldn't the length and height of the hill not matter?
Would the answer be different if friction was significant?

The Attempt at a Solution


If the height and the length don't matter then wouldn't it be the acceleration due to gravity?
 
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Well, the speed of an object can be thought of as its Kinetic Energy (energy of motion). It sounds like a question relating to Conservation Of Energy in my opinion. Do you know about Conservation of Energy? If so, think about the energy the car has at the top of the hill (Hint: The energy the car has at the top must be equal to the energy it has at the bottom, if no energy was lost due to friction.) Try coming up with a equation that sets the initial energy at the top of the hill to the energy at the bottom of the hill, and algebraically solve for the velocity. Hope this helps.

- idrach55
 
Are we to assume that the car STARTS at the top of the hill (that is, from rest) or that it has reached some sort of "terminal velocity" before the question is asked?
 
idrach55 said:
Well, the speed of an object can be thought of as its Kinetic Energy (energy of motion). It sounds like a question relating to Conservation Of Energy in my opinion. Do you know about Conservation of Energy? If so, think about the energy the car has at the top of the hill (Hint: The energy the car has at the top must be equal to the energy it has at the bottom, if no energy was lost due to friction.) Try coming up with a equation that sets the initial energy at the top of the hill to the energy at the bottom of the hill, and algebraically solve for the velocity. Hope this helps.

- idrach55

Okay I understand what you are saying. But if energy was lost due to friction what would happen to the problem?)
 
If friction was added to the problem, some of the energy the car had at the top of the hill would be lost due to friction by the time the car reached the bottom. The energy lost due to friction would be the work done by the friction. Thus you would end up with the Kinetic at the bottom equaling the Potential at the top (assuming the car started from rest) minus the work done by friction. That minus is there because the work done by friction can be thought of as negative (opposite direction) to the work done by gravity in going down the hill.
 

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