Calculate power to have the car at a certain speed

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power required to raise rollercoaster cars to the top of a hill while achieving a specified speed. The problem involves parameters such as the height of the hill, the desired speed at the top, the time taken to raise the cars, and their total mass.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the initial calculation of power using the formula P = mgh/t and question the assumptions made, particularly regarding the initial speed of the cars and the implications of constant speed. There is also mention of the need to incorporate the speed into the power calculation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made in the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the assumptions about initial speed and the precision of the answer, but no consensus has been reached on how to finalize the solution.

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Participants note the importance of stating all assumptions clearly, particularly regarding the initial conditions of the rollercoaster cars and the precision of the given data.

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Homework Statement


**Rollercoaster is being built and the values are the specifications[/B]
Determine the power needed to raise the cars to the top of the hill and have them traveling at the wanted speed.

Height of hill: 65m
Speed at top of hill: 2.5m/s
Time to raise cars: 40 seconds
Total mass of cars: 1250kg

State all assumptions.

Homework Equations



P = mgh/t
Eg = mgh
Ek = 1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



P = mgh / t
= 1250(9.8)(65) / 40
= 19906.3W

Assuming constant speed and no friction.

I don't know how to finish the question.
 
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Well, if the question is

Determine the power needed to raise the cars to the top of the hill and have them traveling at the wanted speed

and your answer is 20 kW (*), what more is there to finish ?

You could add a statement of the assumption that the cars start off at 2.5 m/s, so your lifting device doesn't have to provide the corresponding kinetic energy... but in fact you already did: "assuming constant speed"(*) your given data is in two digits of precision, so it's reasonable to provide the answer in two digits, too. 19906.3 W suggests an accuracy that isn't justified.
 
BvU said:
Well, if the question is
and your answer is 20 kW (*), what more is there to finish ?

You could add a statement of the assumption that the cars start off at 2.5 m/s, so your lifting device doesn't have to provide the corresponding kinetic energy... but in fact you already did: "assuming constant speed"(*) your given data is in two digits of precision, so it's reasonable to provide the answer in two digits, too. 19906.3 W suggests an accuracy that isn't justified.

But the speed isn't incorporated in the answer. The question is asking for the power at a certain speed. I believe do something to 20kW to get the answer
 
SelenaT said:
But the speed isn't incorporated in the answer. The question is asking for the power at a certain speed.
Then assume the cars start at rest.
 
You might be better off guessing a motor size, and using the motor performance specs to calculate the performance of your car, if its not what you need then adjust the size of the motor and recalculate.
 

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