Speeds of particles of a wave on a cord

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The discussion revolves around a transverse traveling wave on a cord, represented by a mathematical function. Participants are tasked with determining the maximum and minimum speeds of the particles of the cord based on the wave's properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of partial time derivatives to find speeds, with one suggesting that the maximum speed is derived from the derivative. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of minimum speed and the implications of negative values in the context of speed.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the definitions of speed and velocity, with some participants providing insights into the nature of the problem statement. Suggestions for clarifying the problem's wording have been made, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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Participants note that the problem statement could be improved for clarity, particularly regarding the terminology used for speed and velocity. The discussion also highlights the importance of interpreting mathematical results in the context of physical concepts.

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Homework Statement


A transverse traveling wave on a cord is represented by D = 0.48 sin (5.6x + 84t) where D and x are in meters and t in seconds. Determine the maximum and minimum speeds of particles of the cord.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm guessing these speeds are found by the partial time derivatives of D:
dD/dt = 40.32 cos (5.6x + 84t).

Is this right?
So the answer is 40.32 m/s??
 
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I believe that is correct. The partices on the cord only "travel" in a transverse fashion, so the time derivative is appropriate. You've correctly listed one of the maximum speeds (the other is just the negative speed). What is the minimum?
 
I guess 0 m/s would be the minimum. But if you count -40.32 m/s, couldn't you say it is also the minimum (it's the smallest number). However, speed is technically always positive...but then why does it say "speeds"?
 
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I guess 0 m/s would be the minimum. But if you count -40.32 m/s, couldn't you say it is also the minimum (it's the smallest number). However, speed is technically always positive...but then why does it say "speeds"?

The problem should have been better stated, with "what is the maximum magnitude of the velocity...". Zero is the minimum speed, and +/-40.32 are the maximum speeds. You had the right intuition in solving this question. Unfortunately, some questions are not stated very well. The best response to badly stated questions, in my experience, is to gently point out the problem with the problem statement, state the best answers to the problem as stated, and gently offer the better-stated problem statement. Depends on the situation, of course.

Good work.
 

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