Spring Force as Centripetal Force?

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The discussion centers on calculating the radius of a circular path for a 2.1 kg mass connected to a spring with a spring constant of 150 N/m, initially unstretched at 0.18 m. The mass moves at a speed of 1.4 m/s, leading to the equation mv²/r = kx, where x represents the stretch in the spring. The correct interpretation of x is crucial; it is the difference between the radius of the path and the unstretched length of the spring. The final radius of the path is determined to be 0.15 m, confirming that the spring stretches under centripetal force.

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  • Understanding of Newton's laws of motion
  • Familiarity with Hooke's Law (Fs = -kx)
  • Knowledge of centripetal force (Fc = mv²/r)
  • Basic principles of circular motion
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Homework Statement



A 2.1 kg mass is connected to a spring with spring constant k=150 N/m and unstretched length 0.18 m. The pair are mounted on a frictionless air table, with the free end of the spring attached to a frictionless pivot. The mass is set into circular motion at 1.4 m/s. Find the radius of its path.

Homework Equations



Fs= -kx
Fc= mv^2/r

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the centripetal force that keeps the mass moving in a circle is provided by the spring, I set Fs = Fc. However, I only equated their magnitudes. Thus, I have this equation:

mv^2/r = kx
r = mv^2 / kx
r = (2.1kg)(1.4m/s)^2 / (150N/m)(0.18m) = 0.15 m

What I am not sure about is the value for x in the equation Fs = -kx. Since the x in the equation is the change in spring length after the spring has been compressed/stretched, the x here should be zero for an unstretched spring. But then, what is the significance of the 0.18 m?

Please let me know if my solution is correct or if I need to change the x.
Thanks in advance!
 
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The force in the spring is kx, where x is the stretched distance beyond the initial 0.18 m unstretched length. So what would be the radius of the path?
 
PhanthomJay said:
The force in the spring is kx, where x is the stretched distance beyond the initial 0.18 m unstretched length. So what would be the radius of the path?

Since the question states that the spring is unstretched, wouldn't the radius of the path be the unstretched length of the spring, which is 0.18 m?
 
The question states that the spring is unstretched before it is set into motion. That 0.18 m is just the length of the spring you bought off the shelf, with no loading on it. Once you set it into motion with the mass on it, it will stretch due to the centripetal force acting on it as caused by the centripetal acceleration. Draw a quick sketch to find the equation of the radius of the circle in terms of the unstretched length and x.
 
PhanthomJay said:
The question states that the spring is unstretched before it is set into motion. That 0.18 m is just the length of the spring you bought off the shelf, with no loading on it. Once you set it into motion with the mass on it, it will stretch due to the centripetal force acting on it as caused by the centripetal acceleration. Draw a quick sketch to find the equation of the radius of the circle in terms of the unstretched length and x.

Ohhhhh, I get it now! the stretched length must be (radius of path - unstretched length) then! Thanks a lot!
 

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