Spring Pendulum - Lagrangian Mechanics

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The discussion focuses on solving a spring pendulum problem using Lagrangian mechanics, specifically applying the Euler-Lagrange equation. The potential energy is derived from both spring and gravitational forces, leading to a Lagrangian defined as L = (1/2)m(ṙ² + ṫ²(r₀ + r)²) + mg(r₀ + r)cosθ - (1/2)kr². The user seeks clarification on whether angular position θ and velocity ṫ should be treated as constants in the analysis, which is confirmed as an approximation for simplifying the differential equations governing the system's motion.

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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Euler-Lagrange Equation
\frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{q}} - \frac{d}{dt}\frac{\partial{L}}{\partial{\dot{q}}} = 0
L = T - V

The Attempt at a Solution


a. The potential energy V is the potential energy from the spring and the gravitational potential energy. The kinetic energy is the energy in the radial direction and in the theta direction.
L = \frac{1}{2}m(\dot{r}^2+\dot{\theta}^2(r_0+r)^2) + mg(r_0+r)cos\theta - \frac{1}{2}kr^2

b. Use one Euler-Lagrange equation for r and one for theta and I get: m\dot{\theta}^2 + mgcos\theta - kr = \frac{d}{dt}(m\dot{r}) -mg(r_0+r)sin\theta = \frac{d}{dt}(m\dot{\theta}(r_0+r)^2)
Which are the F=ma equation for the radial direction and the Torque = (d/dt) Angular momentum equation.

c. Confused here, if angular position and velocity are to be fixed, I assume they mean \theta and \dot{\theta}, do I consider them both to be zero, or just a constant number? And if the position is fixed doesn't that mean that the velocity should be zero? Is this a differential equation I have to solve?

d. and e. Need c to continue.

Any help is appreciated, thanks !
 

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"Fixed" means "constant." The position and velocity aren't actually fixed (so ##\dot{\theta} \ne 0##), but because the timescale over which the radial motion occurs is so short, you can analyze the motion as if ##\theta## and ##\dot{\theta}## were constant. It's an approximation.

By the way, the first term in the radial differential equation is incorrect.
 
Thanks I must have missed a (r_0 + r) factor in the first term when I was putting it into tex, I'll give it a shot with theta and theta dot as constants.
 

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