Square Root Rules: x^(1/2), abs(x), F(x), & More!

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The discussion revolves around the rules and properties of square roots, particularly focusing on the square root of sums and differences, such as sqrt(x+y) and sqrt(x-y). Participants explore whether there are established rules for these expressions and share their understanding of square root properties in general.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that there are no simplification rules for sqrt(x+y) or sqrt(x-y), emphasizing that multiplication and addition do not interact in a way that allows for simplification.
  • One participant acknowledges the lack of rules for sqrt(x+y) and expresses gratitude for the clarification.
  • Another participant reiterates the importance of restrictions on x and y, stating that both must be nonnegative to avoid contradictions in square root properties.
  • There are claims that sqrt(-x) is not universally applicable and that assumptions about the signs of x and y can lead to incorrect conclusions.
  • A participant mentions the binomial formula as a potential approach if infinite sums are accepted, although this does not directly address the simplification of sqrt(x+y).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there are no established rules for simplifying sqrt(x+y) or sqrt(x-y). However, there are differing views on the implications of restrictions on x and y, particularly regarding the treatment of negative values.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of defining the conditions under which square root properties hold, particularly the nonnegativity of x and y. There are unresolved discussions regarding the implications of these restrictions on the validity of certain square root expressions.

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hi guys
i know all square root and any root(cubic...) rules

sqrt(x)=x^(1/2)
sqrt(x^2)=abs(x)
sqrt(xy)=sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)
sqrt(x/y)=sqrt(x)/sqrt(y)
sqrt(-x)=isqrt(x)
f'(x)=1/2sqrt(x)
F(x)=2/3*(x^3/2)
.....
my question is:
is there any rules for this sqrt(x+y)
or sqrd(x-y)??

any help please??
 
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No, there is no way to simplify a square root (or other root) of a sum or difference.

It's simply a case of "multiplication and addition do not play well together!"
 
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Yes of course.
Yesterday i was searching about this(sqrt(x+y)),i found nothing.
you are right there is no rule for this sqrt(x+y)
thanks for help friend.
 
Emmanuel_Euler said:
hi guys
i know all square root and any root(cubic...) rules

sqrt(x)=x^(1/2)
sqrt(x^2)=abs(x)
sqrt(xy)=sqrt(x)*sqrt(y)
You should be aware that there are restrictions on x and y; namely, both must be nonnegative. I.e., x ≥ 0 and y ≥ 0. Without these restrictions you get nonsense like ##1 = \sqrt{1} = \sqrt{-1 * -1} = \sqrt{-1} * \sqrt{-1} = i * i = -1##
Emmanuel_Euler said:
sqrt(x/y)=sqrt(x)/sqrt(y)
There are restrictions here, as well, with x ≥ 0 and y > 0.
Emmanuel_Euler said:
sqrt(-x)=isqrt(x)
Not true. For example, if x = -4, then ##\sqrt{-(-4)} = \sqrt{4} = 2##. ##i\sqrt{-4} = i * (2i) = 2i^2 = -2##.
Here you seem to be tacitly assuming that -x will be negative, which is not true in general.
Emmanuel_Euler said:
f'(x)=1/2sqrt(x)
F(x)=2/3*(x^3/2)

.....
my question is:
is there any rules for this sqrt(x+y)
or sqrd(x-y)??

any help please??
 
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Mark44 said:
You should be aware that there are restrictions on x and y; namely, both must be nonnegative. I.e., x ≥ 0 and y ≥ 0. Without these restrictions you get nonsense like ##1 = \sqrt{1} = \sqrt{-1 * -1} = \sqrt{-1} * \sqrt{-1} = i * i = -1##
There are restrictions here, as well, with x ≥ 0 and y > 0.
Not true. For example, if x = -4, then ##\sqrt{-(-4)} = \sqrt{4} = 2##. ##i\sqrt{-4} = i * (2i) = 2i^2 = -2##.
Here you seem to be tacitly assuming that -x will be negative, which is not true in general.
Friend:i know all the rules you wrote.
i was too busy to write them all(in my question).
But if you really want to help me,find a rule for this sqrt(x+y).
 
Mark44 said:
You should be aware that there are restrictions on x and y; namely, both must be nonnegative. I.e., x ≥ 0 and y ≥ 0. Without these restrictions you get nonsense like ##1 = \sqrt{1} = \sqrt{-1 * -1} = \sqrt{-1} * \sqrt{-1} = i * i = -1##
There are restrictions here, as well, with x ≥ 0 and y > 0.
Not true. For example, if x = -4, then ##\sqrt{-(-4)} = \sqrt{4} = 2##. ##i\sqrt{-4} = i * (2i) = 2i^2 = -2##.
Here you seem to be tacitly assuming that -x will be negative, which is not true in general.
Forgive me!, i was busy and hurry.
 
Emmanuel_Euler said:
Friend:i know all the rules you wrote.
i was too busy to write them all(in my question).
But if you really want to help me,find a rule for this sqrt(x+y).
There is no such rule.

Period.
 
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You are right.
 
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That helps.
thank you for help,i will read it later!
 

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