Stable equilibrium and net force

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of stable equilibrium and equilibrium in the context of charged particles. The original poster presents a problem involving two charged beads and a third charge placed between them, questioning the conditions for equilibrium and the nature of stability.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the definitions of stable and unstable equilibrium, considering the effects of the third charge's sign on the forces acting on it. There is an inquiry into the implications of these forces on the stability of the equilibrium position.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of equilibrium and stability. Some have offered examples to illustrate these concepts, while others are seeking clarification on the original poster's calculations and the specific equations used.

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There is a focus on the sign of the third charge and its impact on the forces involved, which may influence the understanding of equilibrium in this scenario. The original poster's uncertainty regarding the second question indicates a need for further exploration of the concepts presented.

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Is there a difference b/w stable equilibrium and just equilibrium (of charged particles)? My homework problem exactly is:
2 small beads with charge +3q and +q each is fixed at opposite ends of a horizontal insulating rod. If a third charge is placed in between the two charges on the rod, at what position is the third bead in equilibrium? Can it be in stable equilibrium?

The Attempt at a Solution


I was able to calculate stuff for the first question and found the position... but I don't really know what the second question is asking.
 
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equilibrium means net force is zero. if you move an object slightly off the equilibrium, the object can either go further away from the equilibrium (unstable equilibrium) or get back to the equilibrium (stable equilibrium).

in your second question, you need to consider the sign of the third charge. if it's negative, what is the direction of the forces, and what if it's positive? (at equilibrium)
 
So if the third charge is negative, it'll feel a net attractive force from either side of the rod/charges and it'll end up moving away from the equilibrium somehwere in the middle... and if it's positive, it'll feel a net repulsive force (once its off equil) so it'll end back up in equilibrium?
 
Perhaps not necessary to add, but an example of stable equilibrium is a sphere on a 'U-shaped' surface; move it from the state of equilibrium, and it will eventually return to it's original resting point. Further on, an example of unstable equilibrium is a sphere on the top of a '/\-shaped' surface; move it, and it won't stop falling. The last state of equilibrium is called indifferent - take the example of a sphere resting on a horizontal plane; move it, and it will eventually come to rest again, but at some other point of the plane.
 


what equation did you use to solve the first part of the problem?
 

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