Stadium Wave as Longitudinal Wave in Terms of Transmission

In summary, the conversation discusses the difference between transverse and longitudinal waves, using the example of a stadium wave. It is clarified that the stadium wave is purely transverse, while sound waves are longitudinal. The concept of photons as a wave packet is also mentioned, with the understanding that they do not require a medium to propagate.
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So, the common high school physics example of a transverse wave is a "stadium wave" ... but, I'm wondering if this is actually longitudinal in terms of particle transmission. Each particle (audience member) is only standing up/down. The particles/audience stay in place and don't propagate/run down the seats.

Light is (almost trivially) referred to as a transverse wave, but how do the photons "move"? In sound, the particles are disrupted... are the photons disrupted?
 
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No the stadium wave is purely transversal. If you plug a guitar string it is also purely transversal. The wave may propagate back or forth or in a circle, but as long as the amplitude is perpendicular to the propagation direction, it is transversal. That is the whole point of the definition. The equivalent of a longitudinal wave for people is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQOYRr1ijrg" (look at the audience and enjoy the corny music :rofl: )

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rRL3BwcoF8"

Photons work very different from other waves there is no medium and you shouldn't imagine one.
 
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You're confusing some things. The people in the audience are not particles, they are the medium through which the wave travels. The "particle" is the bulge in the medium - the people standing - which propagates through the audience.

For light, photons are not - like gas atoms for sound - a medium. They are wave packets, like the bulge moving through the audience, and as such they propagate.
 

1. What is the stadium wave as a longitudinal wave?

The stadium wave, also known as the Mexican wave or the human wave, is a type of crowd behavior where spectators in a sports stadium or arena stand up and raise their arms in a wave-like motion. It can be considered a longitudinal wave because the motion of the wave is in the same direction as the energy transmission.

2. How is the stadium wave transmitted?

The stadium wave is transmitted through the sequential rising and falling movements of spectators in a stadium. As one section of the crowd stands and raises their arms, the adjacent sections follow suit, creating a wave-like motion that travels throughout the stadium.

3. What factors affect the transmission of the stadium wave?

The transmission of the stadium wave is affected by several factors, including the size and density of the crowd, the speed and direction of the wave, and the layout and design of the stadium. Other factors such as the energy and enthusiasm of the spectators can also impact the transmission of the wave.

4. Can the stadium wave be considered a true longitudinal wave?

While the stadium wave exhibits characteristics of a longitudinal wave, it is not a true longitudinal wave in the scientific sense. This is because the energy transmission is not caused by a compression and expansion of the medium, but rather by the sequential movement of the spectators.

5. What are some real-world applications of the stadium wave as a longitudinal wave?

The stadium wave has been studied as a way to better understand crowd behavior and dynamics. It has also been used in various forms of entertainment, such as at sporting events and concerts, to engage and entertain audiences. Additionally, the principles of the stadium wave can be applied to the design and development of new technologies for energy transmission and communication.

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