Standing wave in a column of methane, find gamma of methane

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the value of γ (gamma) for methane based on a standing wave in a column of the gas. The problem provides a frequency of 1100 Hz and a distance of 0.200 m between nodes, but lacks details about the configuration of the standing wave, such as the number of nodes or the length of the column.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the distance between nodes and the wavelength, with some deducing that the wavelength can be calculated from the node spacing. Questions arise regarding the implications of the missing information about the standing wave's configuration.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in clarifying the relationship between the frequency, wavelength, and speed of the wave. There is a recognition of the need to correctly apply temperature in calculations, and some have successfully calculated γ after addressing unit considerations.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions related to the standing wave's setup, including the number of nodes and whether the column is open or closed. The problem's constraints regarding the provided information are acknowledged but not resolved.

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Homework Statement


A standing wave with a frequency of 1100 Hz in a column of methane at produces nodes that are 0.200 m apart. What is the value of γ for methane? (The molar mass of methane is 16.0 g/mol)

Homework Equations


v = sqrt ( γRT/M) where R is 8.341, T = 20 °C and M = 16.0 g/mol.
v=fλ for the standing wave

The Attempt at a Solution


From what I understand we have to find the speed of the standing wave and equate it to the speed of methane and solve for γ but the problem is that they've not told us anything about the standing wave, as in how many nodes does it have or the length of the column or if it's open or closed? So how do we calculate the speed of the standing wave?
 
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Taniaz said:
nodes that are 0.200 m apart.
What can you deduce from this?
 
The wavelength?
 
Yes, you can determine the wavelength.
 
Distance between 2 adjacent nodes is λ/2
But are there just two nodes? Because the answer for gamma is 1.27 and I don't get that.
so λ/2=0.2 so λ=0.4 m
fλ=v=1100 (0.4) = 440 m/s
v= sqrt (γRT/M)
(440)=sqrt ( γ (8.341)(20) / 16)
And I get a really big number for ϒ?
 
T is absolute temperature and put proper units for R
 
Ohhhhh yess my bad regarding the temperature! Thanks!
 
With that think the units of R to be use.
 
(440 m/s )^2 = y(8.314 J / mol.K)(20 +273)K / 16 x 10^-3 kg
Now gamma = 1.27
Thanks!
 

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