Starting Differential Equations: Finding the General Solution

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The discussion revolves around the topic of differential equations, specifically focusing on finding the general solution for given equations. The original poster expresses difficulty in starting the process of solving these equations and seeks guidance on how to approach them without receiving direct answers.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the nature of solutions to differential equations, emphasizing the existence of infinitely many solutions. Suggestions include consulting textbooks and hints about separating variables and integrating. There is also mention of rewriting equations for clarity and identifying the type of differential equation being addressed.

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Some participants provide hints and guidance on how to start solving the equations, while others question the assumptions made in the original poster's attempts. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a constant of integration in general solutions, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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The original poster requests assistance without direct answers, indicating a desire to engage with the material while adhering to homework guidelines. There is a focus on understanding the foundational concepts of differential equations rather than solving specific problems outright.

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I am having trouble starting differential equations it says to find the general solution of such and i don't know where to get started on some of the.

examples:

dR
--- = tan0 0=theta
d0

dy
--- = 3x- 3y
dx

i don't want them answered as they are part of my assignment i just want help on how to go about starting to solve them.

thank you

Ryan
 
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A solution to a DE means that the value of 'x' or whatever the variable is, satisfies the equation. There can be infinitely many solutions to a DE!

You should better consult your textbook. Or read Schaum's outline of DEs. I don't think anyone will solve these Qs here for you. We need to know that at least you tried.

Hint: Separate Variables and Integrate!
 
For the first one, rewrite it as
[tex]dR= tan(\theta)d\theta[/tex]
and integrate both sides.

The second one is a "linear, first order" differential equation and I'll bet your textbook has some detailed information about those!
 
ok thanks a lot that helps me out a lot.
 
so for the dR = tan(0)d0

would the answer be:

y=-ln cos0+c
 
and for:

dy
-- = 3x-3y
dx

would the answer be:

y= ((3x^4)/4) - ((3y^4)/4)
 
You can check your answer.

for example)

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = 3x-3y[/tex]
This is saying that, a function exists [itex]y[/itex] that when you differentiate it with respect to [itex]x[/itex] then it is equal to [itex]3x-3y[/itex]

So how can you check your answer?

Well your answer is saying that

[tex]y= \frac{1}{4}3x^4 - \frac{1}{4}3y^4[/tex]

So if you differentiate your function.

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = ?[/tex]

Is that differentiated function equal to the right hand side (the [itex]3x-3y[/itex])?

Also what happened to the [itex]c[/itex] (don't forget the constant of integration) when you integrated? A general solution will have infinitely many solutions, so that [itex]c[/itex] is important. Otherwise it is not a general solution.
 
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