Statement and Paleo climate problems.

Thread starter Andre
Start date May 23, 2007
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The discussion centers on the discrepancies between the interpretation of Greenland ice cores and the existence of mammoths in Siberia during the Last Glacial Maximum. The original poster argues that the current understanding of ice core data, which suggests significant temperature fluctuations, is fundamentally flawed. They assert that evidence from mammoth habitats contradicts the prevailing narrative of global warming, claiming that the ice core interpretations are the basis for climate alarmism. The conversation highlights the need for reevaluation of paleo climate data and the implications for current climate theories.

PREREQUISITES

Understanding of paleo climate concepts, particularly the Last Glacial Maximum.
Familiarity with ice core analysis and its implications for temperature reconstruction.
Knowledge of isotope fractionation and its role in climate science.
Basic grasp of geological and climatic history, especially regarding megafauna.

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Research the methodologies behind Greenland ice core temperature reconstructions.
Explore the findings of Ager et al. and Schirrmeister et al. regarding Siberian paleo climate.
Investigate the role of isotopes in climate studies, focusing on d18O and dD ratios.
Examine the implications of mammoth habitat studies conducted by Prof. Daniel Fisher.

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Climate scientists, paleoecologists, and anyone interested in the historical context of climate change debates, particularly those examining the validity of current global warming narratives.

Jun 12, 2007

Andre

That's not the point. The point is that deductive reasoning appears to be death due to the far too popular inductive model approach.

We need less models and more thinking about the big picture. For instance, How are planets really behaving under the dynamics of orbital and spinning perturbations, being a complex multi layered complex gyroscope with brittle, ductile and fluid shells and test your ideas on paleo-evidence instead of gazing at the most unexplained behavior of the Earth and trying to explain it using only a limited scope of specialities and models, disregarding others.

Highly unlikely to solve that with sophisticated circulation models

Last edited: Jun 12, 2007