Static equilibrium and tension problem

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The problem involves four blocks of varying masses connected by ropes, with external forces acting on the system. The goal is to determine the tension Tz in one of the ropes while considering the static equilibrium of the blocks.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of F=ma for each block, noting that the acceleration is the same due to the ropes not stretching. There is a focus on how to account for the various forces and tensions in the system.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different interpretations of the problem, with some expressing hesitance about not including all masses and tensions in their calculations. There is a mix of attempts to calculate Tz, with some guidance provided on considering the arrangement of the blocks and forces.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding how to incorporate the effects of all forces and tensions in the calculations, particularly in relation to the external forces of 20N and 50N acting in opposite directions.

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Homework Statement



Four blocks with masses 2kg, 4kg, 6kg, 3kg are held together with ropes with tensions Tx, Ty, Tz. There is a force of 20N pointing to the right and 50N to the left. Find Tz.

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This is like the static equilibrium problems, yet everything is moving. How do I find Tz?
 
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F=ma on each block. Since the ropes are not stretching a is the same for all blocks.
 
So, since a is the same for all the blocks would I say:

50N-20N=15kg*a
a=2m/s

then F on box D would be Tz-48N=3kg*2m/s
Tz=54N

I feel hesitant not including the other masses and tensions...
 
Vanessa23 said:
I feel hesitant not including the other masses and tensions...
If you want to work out all of the other tensions for each mass you certainly can, but all it will do is make you feel more confident :)

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Vanessa23 said:
Tz-48N=3kg*2m/s
Tz=54N
Where did the 48N come from, shouldn't that be either 20N or 50N depending on how the blocks are arranged?
 
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Sorry, I meant
Tz-20N=3kg*2m/s
Tz=26N

but why does it not matter what all of the other tensions, masses, and forces are? Why doesn't the calculation for Tz include the fact that there is a 50N force in the other direction as well as other blocks and other ropes?
 
While calculating the acceleration of the whole system you have taken into account all the forces and masses. They have named the tensions as Tx,Ty and Tz to make sure that which tension you have to calculate, proveded you arrange the blocks in same order as given in the problem.
 
So, then what would happen if the question asked for the middle tension?
 
Wright the expression for Ty - Tz
 

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