Static Equilibrium - board problem

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A meter stick balances at the 50.0 cm mark with two 5.0 g weights at the 12.0 cm mark, shifting the balance to 45.5 cm. The problem involves understanding the forces acting on the stick, including the upward force from the knife-edge and the downward forces from the weights and the stick's own gravity. Clarification is provided that the pivot point is at the 45.5 cm mark, not the 50.0 cm mark. The mass of the meter stick is determined to be 74 g. Understanding the force diagram is crucial for solving the problem accurately.
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Homework Statement



A meter stick balances horizontally on a knife-edge at the 50.0 cm mark. With two 5.0 g stacked over the 12.0 cm mark, the stick is found to balance at the 45.5 cm mark. What is the mass of the meter stick?


Homework Equations



netF = 0
netTorque = 0
The answer is 74 g

The Attempt at a Solution



I know there is an upward force exerted by the knife, a downward force exerted by the weight of the coins, and another downward force exerted by gravity acting on the meter stick itself, which I originally thought was at the .5 mark.

Does there need to be a second upward force at the .445 m mark, or is that where I put my pivot point?

This shouldn't be a hard problem, but I don't think I really understand how the force diagram should look.
 
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Seraph404 said:
A meter stick balances horizontally on a knife-edge at the 50.0 cm mark. With two 5.0 g stacked over the 12.0 cm mark, the stick is found to balance at the 45.5 cm mark. What is the mass of the meter stick?



I know there is an upward force exerted by the knife, a downward force exerted by the weight of the coins, and another downward force exerted by gravity acting on the meter stick itself, which I originally thought was at the .5 mark.

Does there need to be a second upward force at the .445 m mark, or is that where I put my pivot point

Hi Seraph! :smile:

I think the question is slightly misleading.

It intends you to assume that there is only one knife-edge, and it is moved to the .445 m mark.

So the only force you need worry about at the .5 m mark is the weight of the stick. :smile:
 
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