Calculating Forces and Torques in a Basic Equilibrium Problem

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The problem involves calculating the upward forces on two supports of a wooden plank in equilibrium, considering the weights of the plank and a man standing on it. The subject area includes concepts of forces, torques, and equilibrium conditions in mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of torque equations and the equilibrium condition ΣFy = 0. There is uncertainty about the direction of forces exerted by the supports and the correct approach to calculating the forces.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the equations available, while others question the assumptions made about the forces and torques. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces and torques involved in the problem.

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Participants note the specific distances between supports and the placement of the man on the plank, which may affect the calculations. There is also mention of the need to clarify the direction of forces exerted by the supports.

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Homework Statement


A sturdy wooden plank, 4 meters in length and having a mass of 42 kg, is rests on 2 supports placed 1.2 meters from each end. Suppose a man of 72 kg stands 1 meter from the right end of the board. What are the upward forces on each board?

|---L----R-M--|

Where L is the left support, R is the right support, and M is the man.

Homework Equations



ΣFy = 0

Στ = 0

τ_R = F_R * .8, τ_L = F_L * .8

Total gap between supports is 1.6 meters.

Weight of man = 705.6 N

Weight of board = 411.6 N

The Attempt at a Solution



Each support is located .8 meters away from the board, and thus I have written out those equations above. I know that the torque produced by the man is equal to his weight, as he is 1 meter away from both the center and the edge of the board, and I am assuming the torque of the board is also equal to its weight. I also know that in problems similar to this, like cantilevers, the force of the left support will actually be downward, instead of upward.

I know that if I have the force of the right support, I can figure out the support of the left. At first, I tried to figure the force of the right support out by adding the torques of the man and board together and then solving for F_R, but in hindsight I am not confident that is the correct way to go about it.
 
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Hello,

As I can see, you have written the ΣFy=0 equation but you have not used it.
 
Matt Armstrong said:
the force of the left support will actually be downward
It's a support. By definition, it can only exert an upward force on the plank.
Matt Armstrong said:
adding the torques of the man and board together and then solving for F_R
Sounds good. Please post your attempt.
DoItForYourself said:
you have written the ΣFy=0 equation but you have not used it.
There being no horizontal forces, there are only two equations available. Doesn't matter whether they are two torque equations or one torque and one linear.
 
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haruspex said:
Sounds good. Please post your attempt.

.8*F_R = T_M + T_B = 705.6 + 411.6 = 1117.2 -> 1117.2/.8 = 1396.5 = F_R

1396.5 + F_L - F_M - F_B = 0, with F_L resulting as -279.3, but it needs to be an upward force?
 
You are aware that, when you calculate moments, you need to multiply by the moment arm, correct?
 

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