Statics - Truck's max load in center of mass

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The discussion revolves around a statics problem involving a truck's maximum load in relation to its center of gravity. Participants are analyzing the distribution of weight across the truck's axles based on given load measurements when the truck is empty.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the calculation of the center of gravity (CG) using the weights on the axles and discuss how additional weight would be distributed between the axles. There are attempts to derive equations based on torque to find the maximum load that can be added without exceeding the axle limits.

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The discussion is active with participants sharing calculations and reasoning. Some have provided insights into how to approach the problem using torque equations, while others are confirming the understanding of weight distribution. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraint of maximum load limits for each axle and the requirement to calculate the load based on the center of gravity without additional distance measurements provided.

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During the weight-in of a truck it's been determined that the load of the weight acting on the front axis and back axis are 18 [kN] and 12 [kN] correspondingly, when the truck is empty as shown in the diagram.
The max load allowed on every axis is 40.Calculate the size of the max load that's allowed to load on the truck, presuming it's centered in the center of gravity of the truck. Xc.

(The first question was to find Xc, I found it correctly)

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9959/truckmy.jpg

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The total weight of the unloaded truck is (12 + 18)kN = 30 kN. This weight, if taken to be concentrated at the center of gravity of the truck, ends up distributed to the axles as shown. It follows that any additional weight added at the center of gravity would be distributed likewise.

Suppose weight w is added at the center of gravity. How does it divide between the axles?
 
Firstly, for calculating the position of CG you can just use one of the two axles as reference point so you don't have to "invent" distances on the truck that is not given. For instance, using the front axle as reference you'd get xc = (5m*12kN + 0m*18kN)/(12kN+18kN) = 2m.

Secondly, if you place a load L in CG, the total weight is then L+30 and you can write up two equation that via torques around either axle calculate the load on the other axle and set that equal to 40 and solve for L. The equations with the smallest L wins.
 
The total weight of the unloaded truck is (12 + 18)kN = 30 kN. This weight, if taken to be concentrated at the center of gravity of the truck, ends up distributed to the axles as shown. It follows that any additional weight added at the center of gravity would be distributed likewise.

I see.
Suppose weight w is added at the center of gravity. How does it divide between the axles?

In terms of percentages:

12/30
18/30

Firstly, for calculating the position of CG you can just use one of the two axles as reference point so you don't have to "invent" distances on the truck that is not given. For instance, using the front axle as reference you'd get xc = (5m*12kN + 0m*18kN)/(12kN+18kN) = 2m.

Dooly noted :)

Secondly, if you place a load L in CG, the total weight is then L+30 and you can write up two equation that via torques around either axle calculate the load on the other axle and set that equal to 40 and solve for L. The equations with the smallest L wins.

I see what you mean. Let me try that...
 
Got it! Clearly it's the LOWEST weight that's the correct result, because that's when the first axle reaches 40. Thank you! :)
 

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