Steps for Setting Up Triple Integrals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the steps for setting up triple integrals, particularly in the context of specific geometric regions such as cylinders and spheres. Participants seek clarity on how to determine the bounds for integration and the overall setup process.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants emphasize the importance of sketching the region to visualize the problem before setting up the integral.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in finding the bounds for integration, indicating that they can perform the integration once the setup is provided.
  • A specific example of a right circular cylinder is presented, detailing the bounds for the triple integral to compute its volume.
  • Another example of a sphere is also discussed, with proposed bounds for its volume calculation.
  • Participants provide expressions for the volume of both the cylinder and the sphere using triple integrals, but do not reach a consensus on the general steps applicable to all scenarios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the necessity of sketching the region and the specific examples provided, but there is no consensus on a universal method for determining bounds for all types of regions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the challenges faced in finding bounds for various regions, and the examples provided may not cover all scenarios encountered in setting up triple integrals.

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I am really struggling setting up triple integrals. I need steps, simple steps normally applied when setting up integrals given a specific region.
 
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Harpazo said:
I am really struggling setting up triple integrals. I need steps, simple steps normally applied when setting up integrals given a specific region.

Well the first step is always drawing a sketch of your region...
 
Prove It said:
Well the first step is always drawing a sketch of your region...

Ok but can you provide steps? Find the bounds has been a big challenge for me. I can easily integrate when the set up is given.
 
Let's look at a very simple example. Consider the region bounded by:

$$z=0$$

$$z=h$$

$$x^2+y^2=r^2$$

When we make a sketch of the region, we see is is a right circular cylinder of radius $r$ and height $h$, so we know its volume is $V=\pi r^2h$. To set up a triple integral to compute the volume, we see that:

$$0\le z\le h$$

$$-r\le y\le r$$

$$-\sqrt{r^2-y^2}\le x\le\sqrt{r^2-y^2}$$

And so we may express the volume as:

$$V=\int_0^h\int_{-r}^{r}\int_{-\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Using symmetry, we may state:

$$V=4\int_0^h\int_{0}^{r}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Evaluating, we have:

$$V=4\int_0^h\int_{0}^{r}\sqrt{r^2-y^2}\,dy\,dz=\pi r^2\int_0^h\,dz=\pi r^2h\quad\checkmark$$

Likewise, a sphere of radius $r$ can be set up as follows:

$$V=8\int_0^r\int_0^{\sqrt{r^2-z^2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Draw a sketch of a sphere centered at the origin of radius $r$ and see if you can confirm these limits. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Let's look at a very simple example. Consider the region bounded by:

$$z=0$$

$$z=h$$

$$x^2+y^2=r^2$$

When we make a sketch of the region, we see is is a right circular cylinder of radius $r$ and height $h$, so we know its volume is $V=\pi r^2h$. To set up a triple integral to compute the volume, we see that:

$$0\le z\le h$$

$$-r\le y\le r$$

$$-\sqrt{r^2-y^2}\le x\le\sqrt{r^2-y^2}$$

And so we may express the volume as:

$$V=\int_0^h\int_{-r}^{r}\int_{-\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Using symmetry, we may state:

$$V=4\int_0^h\int_{0}^{r}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Evaluating, we have:

$$V=4\int_0^h\int_{0}^{r}\sqrt{r^2-y^2}\,dy\,dz=\pi r^2\int_0^h\,dz=\pi r^2h\quad\checkmark$$

Likewise, a sphere of radius $r$ can be set up as follows:

$$V=8\int_0^r\int_0^{\sqrt{r^2-z^2}}\int_0^{\sqrt{r^2-y^2}}\,dx\,dy\,dz$$

Draw a sketch of a sphere centered at the origin of radius $r$ and see if you can confirm these limits. :D

An excellent explanation. Thanks.
 

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