Sticky Collision with Clay Ball and Rod

In summary, The problem involves a uniform rod suspended from one end, being struck by a clay ball of equal mass at an angle of 60 degrees from the vertical. The clay ball sticks to the rod after the collision. To find the linear velocity of the free end just after the collision, conservation of angular momentum should be used. The moment of inertia of the rod will be \frac{4}{3} m \ell^2 and the final speed can be found by using the equation \omega = v/r, where r = \ell.
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[SOLVED] Sticky Collision with Clay Ball and Rod

Homework Statement

A uniform rod of mass m and length [tex]\ell[/tex] = 2 meters is suspended from one end by a frictionless pivot so that it can swing freely in the x-y plane. When the rod is at rest it is struck by a clay ball of equal mass m with initial velocity [tex]v_0[/tex] = 10 m/s at an angle of 60º with the vertical rod. The clay ball strikes the rod at the free end and sticks to it. What is the linear velocity of the free end just after the collision?

  • 11.4 m/s
  • 6.50 m/s
  • 3.75 m/s
  • 1.85 m/s
  • 1.65 m/s

Relevant equations

The moment of inertia of the thin rod about one end is [tex]I=\frac{1}{3} m L^2[/tex].

My Background

My Physics C class hasn't started rotational motion/torque yet, and I'm not too comfortable with the equations. (We just finished linear momentum.) This question is a bonus question on our holiday homework, so I know I should figure it out myself, but I've been reading through my textbook and on websites for hours. This is a last resort.

What I've managed to figure out (I think)

The moment of inertia at the end of the rod after the clay ball hits will be [tex]I=\frac{1}{3} m \ell^2+m \ell^2 = \frac{4}{3} m \ell^2[/tex], if I'm correct in thinking that moments of inertia can be added like that.

I also figure that the answer can't be A, because it's greater than the clay ball's initial velocity. The clay ball's velocity perpendicular to the rod (i.e. the velocity that will affect the rod's rotation) is 10sin60º = 8.66 m/s. Since choices B through E are less than that, I figure that they are all possibilities.

Attempt 1: Rotational Newton's Second Law

I was thinking that I could do something with torque or a rotational analogue of Newton's Second Law, but it seems that to figure out the force the clay ball exerts on the rod, I'd need to know the time for which it was exerting the force. That isn't provided. I think I'd also need to know the change in momentum, but if I knew that, then I'd know the velocity of the clay ball + rod system on impact, and I'd have the problem solved. So I don't think torque or impulse equations will work.

Attempt 2: Kinetic Energy

[tex]\begin{align*}
KE_i=KE_f\\
\frac{1}{2} m {v_0}^2=\frac{1}{2} I \omega^2\\
m {v_0}^2=\frac{4}{3} m \ell^2 \omega^2\\
{v_0}^2=\frac{4}{3} \ell^2 \omega^2
\end{align*}[/tex]

I plugged in 10sin60º for [tex]v_0[/tex], because even though it isn't the true initial velocity of the clay ball, I thought it would be the only velocity component affecting the motion of the clay ball + rod system. I figured that the KE from the velocity component parallel to the rod would be dissipated as heat. (I'm probably treating KE too much like a vector.) So, solving for [tex]\omega[/tex] and using the equation [tex]\omega=v r=v \ell[/tex], I got v = 7.50 m/s, which isn't too close to any of the choices.

Attempt 3: Conservation of Momentum

[tex]\begin{align*}
P_i=P_f\\
mv_0=I\omega\\
mv_0=\frac{4}{3}m\ell^2vr\\
v_0=\frac{4}{3}\ell^3v\\
\end{align*}[/tex]

According to Wikipedia, "for an object with a fixed mass that is rotating about a fixed symmetry axis," angular momentum = [tex]I\omega[/tex]. I wasn't really sure if that applied to this situation. I'm also pretty sure that I can't equate linear momentum and angular momentum like that, but hey, I thought I'd try. So, plugging in 10sin60º for [tex]v_0[/tex] again, I obtained a value of v = .812 m/s. Way off from my other answer, and again, not close to the choices.

Help!

I think my main problem, aside from not knowing the formulas well enough, is that I don't know how to deal with the fact that the clay ball is colliding with the rod at a 60º angle rather than perpendicularly. I think I could make a kinetic energy formula or some sort of a momentum formula would work if it were a perpendicular collision. Anyway, if someone could point me in the right direction (and maybe point out my mistakes), I'd really appreciate it!
 
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What I would do is, at least at first, ignore the fact that the rod is attached at one end- or that it is a rod at all. Treat both clay ball and rod as though they were "point masses" and use conservation of momentum to determine the velocity vector of the rod-clay ball combination immediately after the collision as if they were point masses. Then break that into components parallel to and perependicular to the rod. Since the rod is prevented from moving accept around its pivot, the resultant velocity vector will be the component perpendicular to the rod.
 
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Squashy said:
The moment of inertia at the end of the rod after the clay ball hits will be [tex]I=\frac{1}{3} m \ell^2+m \ell^2 = \frac{4}{3} m \ell^2[/tex], if I'm correct in thinking that moments of inertia can be added like that.
Good!

Since it's an inelastic collision, KE will not be conserved--so forget about that approach.

Also, linear momentum is not conserved (since the rod is constrained at one end)--so forget about that.

Conservation of angular momentum is the way to go.
Attempt 3: Conservation of Momentum

[tex]\begin{align*}
P_i=P_f\\
mv_0=I\omega\\
mv_0=\frac{4}{3}m\ell^2vr\\
v_0=\frac{4}{3}\ell^3v\\
\end{align*}[/tex]

You want to set initial angular momentum equal to final angular momentum. Here you set the initial linear momentum equal to the final angular momentum. No good. (The units won't even match.)

Read this: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/amom.html" [Broken]

So correct the left hand side of your initial equation and do over. (Done correctly, the initial angular momentum will involve the length of the rod and the sine of the angle.)

Two other errors:
(1) [itex]\omega \ne vr[/itex]! ([itex]\omega = v/r[/itex], where [itex]r = \ell[/itex], of course.)
(2) You need to solve for the final speed, not the initial speed!
 
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Thank you for the responses!

Doc Al said:
You want to set initial angular momentum equal to final angular momentum. Here you set the initial linear momentum equal to the final angular momentum. No good. (The units won't even match.)

Read this: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/amom.html" [Broken]

I didn't realize that objects moving linearly could have angular momentum; I thought angular momentum only applied to objects undergoing rotational motion. Now I see that all objects in motion have angular momentum, with respect to an origin. Thanks!

So, changing my equation, I get

[tex]\begin{align*}
L_i=L_f\\
mvr\sin\theta=I\omega\\
10\sin{60}^\texttt{o}m\ell=\frac{4}{3}m\ell^2\frac{v}{\ell}\\
v=\frac{3}{4}(10\sin{60}^\texttt{o})\\
v=6.50\: \texttt{m/s}\\
\end{align*}[/tex]

Choice (B). :biggrin:

Doc Al said:
Two other errors:
(1) [itex]\omega \ne vr[/itex]! ([itex]\omega = v/r[/itex], where [itex]r = \ell[/itex], of course.)
(2) You need to solve for the final speed, not the initial speed!

Those errors were a result of tired brain. Thank you for correcting them.
 
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1. What is a "sticky collision"?

A sticky collision occurs when two objects collide and stick together after impact due to strong intermolecular forces. This results in a decrease in kinetic energy and the formation of a new, combined object.

2. How does a clay ball behave during a sticky collision?

A clay ball, being a soft and malleable material, will deform upon impact and adhere to the other object due to its stickiness. This results in a change in the shape and size of the clay ball.

3. What factors affect the stickiness of a collision between a clay ball and a rod?

The stickiness of a collision between a clay ball and a rod can be influenced by various factors such as the materials of the objects, their surface textures, and the speed and angle of impact. The stickiness can also be affected by external factors such as temperature and humidity.

4. How does a sticky collision with a clay ball and rod differ from an elastic collision?

In an elastic collision, the objects bounce off each other with no loss of kinetic energy. However, in a sticky collision with a clay ball and rod, the objects stick together and there is a decrease in kinetic energy due to the formation of a new, combined object.

5. What real-life applications can be found for the concept of sticky collision?

The concept of sticky collision is commonly observed in sports such as baseball, where a ball sticks to the bat after impact. It is also important in the field of materials science, where understanding the stickiness of collisions can help in designing and improving materials for various applications such as adhesives, packaging, and impact-resistant materials.

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