Strategies for Solving Inverse Laplace Transform Problems with Complex Roots

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The discussion revolves around solving an inverse Laplace transform problem involving complex roots, specifically the function F(s) = (s + 3) / (s^3 + 3s^2 + 6s + 4). Participants are exploring different methods to approach the problem, including partial fraction decomposition and matrix solutions.

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  • The original poster attempts to use partial fractions and questions how to handle the complex roots in the decomposition. They express uncertainty about the treatment of complex numbers in their equations.
  • Some participants suggest alternative methods, such as avoiding imaginary numbers and using a different form for the partial fraction decomposition.
  • There is a mention of expanding the function and solving for constants A, B, and C, with some participants discussing the factorization of the denominator.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing various approaches and insights. One participant has indicated they solved the problem using a matrix method, while others are exploring the implications of different methods and the complexities involved with imaginary numbers.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with complex roots and the potential for mistakes when using imaginary numbers. There is also a reference to the context of the problem being related to modeling circuits, which may influence the approaches taken.

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Hello all,
Having difficulty with this one question that involves complex roots. Here it is:
F(s)=\frac{s+3}{s^3+3s^2+6s+4}
I tried two different ways to tackle it. First method I divided it right away:
F(s)=\frac{s+3}{s^3+3s^2+6s+4}\rightarrow{s^2+6-\frac{14}{s+3}}
Is there some sort of approach to something like s^2? I have not taken a differential equations course, and this is in one of my classes for modelling circuits.
If I decide not to do it this way, I can break it up via partial fractions:
F(s)=\frac{s+3}{s^3+3s^2+6s+4}=\frac{s+3}{(s+1)(s+1-\sqrt{3}j)(s+1+\sqrt{3}j)}=\frac{A}{s+1}+\frac{B}{s+1-\sqrt{3}j}+\frac{C}{s+1+\sqrt{3}j}
where j is a complex number.
Thus,
A(s^2+2s+4)+B(s+1)(s+1+\sqrt{3}j)+C(s+1)(s+1-\sqrt{3}j)=s+3
As^2+Bs^2+Cs^2=A+B+C=0
The part that I do not know how to do is from here.
Would it be:
2As+2Bs+2Cs+j\sqrt{3}Bs+j\sqrt{3}Cs=s
or are the complex numbers treated separetely?

Or is there an easier way, altogether?
 
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got it. Solved via matrix for A, B, C
 
Generally, I try to avoid imaginary numbers if I can. Factors of j are just like mistakes waiting to happen. I'd instead expand it as
$$F(s) = \frac{s+3}{s^3+3s+6s+4} = \frac{A}{s+1}+\frac{Bs + C}{s^2+2s+4}$$which leads to
$$s+3 = A(s^2+2s+4) + (Bs+C)(s+1)$$
 
Edit: vela beat me to the punch!

Breaking the denominator into all linear factors seems like it might be the harder way to go. You can factor s3 + 3s2 + 6s + 4 into (s + 1)(s2 + 2s + 4).

When you use partial fractions, you'll be solving for constants A, B, and C so that
\frac{s + 3}{s^3 + 3s^2 + 6s + 4} = \frac{A}{s+1} + \frac{Bs + C}{s^2 + 2s + 4}

That last denominator can be rewritten as s2 + 2s + 1 + 3 = (s + 1)2 + (√3)2, if need be, which lends itself to a trig substitution.
 

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