Stress-energy tensor diagonalization

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The discussion revolves around the diagonalization of the stress-energy tensor in the context of general relativity, specifically examining whether a coordinate transformation can be found that diagonalizes the stress-energy tensor while also transforming the metric to a specific form. The focus is on the implications for symmetric rank-2 tensors and the conditions under which these transformations can be achieved.

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  • One participant proposes that for any stress-energy tensor and any metric, it should be possible to find a coordinate transformation that diagonalizes the stress-energy tensor and transforms the metric to a specific diagonal form.
  • Another participant argues that while a field of basis vectors can be found to achieve the desired metric form, this does not necessarily correspond to a coordinate field basis, especially in curved spacetime.
  • A later reply clarifies that the original question pertains only to a single point in spacetime, acknowledging the limitations of finding a coordinate basis that maintains the Minkowskian form everywhere in curved spacetime.
  • One participant introduces the concept of vielbeins, suggesting that the metric's definition implies local flatness, which may relate to the diagonalization of the stress-energy tensor.
  • It is noted that the stress-energy tensor is diagonal in the specified basis only for perfect fluids, with a further clarification that this implies equal diagonal components for the tensor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of diagonalizing the stress-energy tensor and the conditions under which this can occur. There is no consensus on the implications for non-perfect fluids or the generalizability of the proposed transformations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of tensor diagonalization in curved spacetime and the dependence on the nature of the stress-energy tensor, particularly in relation to perfect fluids versus other forms.

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This question probably applies to symmetric rank-2 tensors in general, but I've been thinking about it specifically in the context of the stress-energy tensor.

For any stress-energy tensor and any metric (with signature -, +, +, +), is it possible to find a coordinate transformation that a) diagonalizes the stress-energy tensor and b) transforms the metric to diag(-1, 1, 1, 1)?

In other words, it seems intuitive to me that, for any stress-energy tensor of a fluid element, one should be able to find an MCRF of the fluid element such that all off-diagonal components of the tensor are zero.
 
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Regards b: You can always find a field of basis vectors so that the metric (in that basis) takes that form everywhere, but that vector basis won't always correspond to a coordinate field basis. Alternatively, around any point, you can always choose coords so the metric is like Minkowski space when evaluated at exactly that point, but such a metric will not be constant (that choice of coords will give different values of the metric components when evaluated at different points in the neighbourhood) unless the region is free of intrinsic curvature.
 
cesiumfrog said:
Regards b: You can always find a field of basis vectors so that the metric (in that basis) takes that form everywhere, but that vector basis won't always correspond to a coordinate field basis. Alternatively, around any point, you can always choose coords so the metric is like Minkowski space when evaluated at exactly that point, but such a metric will not be constant (that choice of coords will give different values of the metric components when evaluated at different points in the neighbourhood) unless the region is free of intrinsic curvature.

Thanks -- but I should have specified that my question only concerns one point in spacetime. I agree that one can't find a coordinate basis in curved spacetime where the metric is Minkowskian everywhere.
 
About the stress energy tensor I would have to think, but for the metric this is the very definition of the vielbein:

[tex] g_{\mu\nu}e_{a}^{\mu}e_{b}^{\nu} = \eta_{ab}[/tex]

which is based on the definition of a manifold which says a manifold is locally flat (and in GR thus locally Minkowski).
 
The stress-energy tensor is diagonal in this basis only for perfect fluids.
 
Ich said:
The stress-energy tensor is diagonal in this basis only for perfect fluids.

I think you mean that, for perfect fluids, the tensor is diagonal and [tex]T^{11} = T^{22} = T^{33}[/tex].
 

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