Stress Transformation Question (Plane Stress)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the limitations and application of stress transformation equations in plane stress situations, particularly in the context of a square plate subjected to tension at its corners. Participants explore the discrepancies between results obtained from stress transformation and those from the method of sections.

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether there are limitations on the use of stress transformation equations in plane stress situations, particularly when applied to a square plate under tension.
  • Another participant suggests that there should not be limitations and encourages sharing the details of the calculations to identify potential errors.
  • A participant describes their calculations, noting discrepancies between the normal stress calculated using stress transformation and that calculated using the method of sections.
  • One participant points out that neglecting shear stresses in the calculations may lead to incorrect results, emphasizing that shear stress arises when transforming between planes at different angles.
  • Another participant agrees with the importance of considering shear stress but maintains that it should not affect the calculation of normal stress.
  • A participant suggests that the thread might receive more attention if posted in the Coursework/Homework forum.
  • One participant claims to have resolved their issue, indicating a potential resolution but not providing details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of shear stress in the calculations and whether it impacts the normal stress results. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the discrepancies between the two methods of calculation.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the limitations of the stress transformation equations or the impact of neglecting shear stresses on the results.

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Hi All,

I'm a few years out of school and out of practice on my Mechanics of Materials, so please pardon the fundamental question. Are there limitations on the use of the stress transformation equations in plane stress situations? For example I find the transformation equations don't yield the correct results when transforming the stress for a square plate, pulled in tension at it's corners (sectioned across it's diagonal) 45 degrees to get the stress when the plate is sectioned parallel to one pair of sides. Basically the transformation equations are yielding different results than if I were to just section the plate at 45 degrees and balance the internal forces.

Do the stress transformation equations assume your original stresses are found at the smallest cross sectional area? I can't find that limitation in any textbooks.

Thanks for the help.
 
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Post the details of what you did, and somebody will probably explain where you went wrong.

There shouldn't be any "limitations" with this.
 
I attached how I worked this out by hand. The top portion of the page just shows the square plate pulled in tension at the corners and sectioned along it's diagonal. On the left I found the stress on the plane parallel to the sides of the square using the method of sections. On the right I found the stress on the same plane (parallel to the sides) using stress transformation by force balancing on a small element. Page 2 is just the textbook stress transformation formula which yields the same result as the force balancing on the right side of page one. I included it as a check. I didn't include shear stresses in any of my calculations. Notice the left side results are different than the right side results. Can anyone explain where I'm going wrong with this? Thanks again.
 

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I didn't include shea stresses in any of my calculations.

That's where you went wrong. If you have a a stress field with Sx = some value and Sy = 0, and you make a cut at an angle, you will get a direct stress and a shear stress on the cut.

The only situation where the shear stress is always 0, is when Sx and Sy both have the same value.
 
Thanks for the response Aleph!

I agree with your statement regarding the shear stress that results when transforming from a plane with no shear to a plane at another angle. However, I don't believe this would affect my calculation of the normal stress. My issue is that the normal stress calculated from the stress transformation equations is not the same as the normal stress calculated from the method of sections. Any other insight would be greatly appreciated.
 
Would this thread see a little more action in the Coursework/Homework forum?
 
Pretty sure i figured this one out. Thanks anyway.
 

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