Structural Analysis- Properties Of Sections

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The discussion focuses on determining the dimension 's' for a compound section formed by two steel channels, ensuring that the second moment of area Ixx equals Iyy. Participants emphasize the use of the parallel axis theorem to calculate the combined section's properties. The formula for the combined section's moment of inertia about the y-axis is provided, which includes the individual channel's moment of inertia and the area multiplied by the square of the distance from the centroid. The correct application of these principles allows for the calculation of 's' based on the known dimensions and properties of the channels.

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  • Understanding of the parallel axis theorem
  • Knowledge of second moment of area calculations
  • Familiarity with section modulus and radius of gyration
  • Basic principles of structural analysis for steel sections
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  • Study the parallel axis theorem in detail, focusing on its application in structural analysis
  • Learn how to calculate the second moment of area for various shapes, including steel channels
  • Explore the concept of centroid and its significance in determining section properties
  • Practice problems involving the calculation of combined section properties using provided formulas
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The two steel channels shown are arranged to form a compound section in which Ixx=Iyy.
Determine the value of the dimension 's' that will satisfy this condition.

We have been working on radius of gyration, section modulus, second moment of area, the parallel axis theorem, polar second moment. But all the questions we have done in class are using universal beams and none ask to determine the dimension of anything. Please Help !
 

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The dimensions you need are given, except for 's' , which you are asked to find. The properties of one channel are also noted. The I_xx of the combined section is independent of the channel spacing, so you should be able to easily calculate it. Once you know I_xx of the combined section, you are asked to make the
I-yy of the combined section equal to it. This can be done using the parallel axis theorem, about the y axis. Note that in using this theorem, the unknown distance 'd' to use in your 'Ad^2" calculations is measured from the cg of the channel to the y axis. Please show your attempt.
 
So would the combined Ixx of both channels be 2 times the Ixxof 1 channel. And sorry, but I'm not sure on how to calculate s using the parallel axis theorem. i haven't been taught much about it just given a bunch of formulas. Thanks For any help.
 
Stacyg said:
So would the combined Ixx of both channels be 2 times the Ixxof 1 channel.
Yes, correct.
And sorry, but I'm not sure on how to calculate s using the parallel axis theorem. i haven't been taught much about it just given a bunch of formulas. Thanks For any help.
Have you been given the parallel axis theorem formula {I_{yy}}_c = \Sigma {I_{yy}}_1 + \Sigma A_1 d^2, where {I_{yy}}_c is the combined section yy moment of inertia about the centroid of the combined section, {I_{yy}}_1 is the yy moment of inertia of the individual channel about the centroid of the individual channel, A_1 is the individual area of the channel, and d is the distance from the centroid of the individual channel to the centroid of the combined section (that is, in this case, d = \rho + s/2). Try plugging in some numbers and resubmit for further assistance. I've given a lot of hints. And don't forget the summation part!
 

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