Can Theoretical Physics PhDs Thrive in Industry Jobs?

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The discussion centers on the career prospects for PhD candidates in theoretical High Energy Physics (HEP) transitioning to industry roles. The participant, a Master of Physics student at the University of Western Australia, weighs the benefits of pursuing a theoretical PhD against the potential for better job opportunities in experimental physics. Key insights reveal that skills in signal processing and data analysis, gained through both electrical engineering and physics research, are highly transferable to industry roles. Participants affirm that PhD holders in physics can successfully find positions in engineering and data analysis, particularly in sectors like acoustics and astronomy.

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  • Understanding of High Energy Physics (HEP) and its theoretical aspects.
  • Familiarity with signal processing techniques and data analysis methodologies.
  • Knowledge of Python for data manipulation and analysis.
  • Basic concepts of quantum field theory (QFT) and general relativity (GR).
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  • Research job titles and roles for PhD physicists in signal processing and data analysis.
  • Explore opportunities in underwater acoustical research and related fields.
  • Investigate industry applications of gravitational wave detection technologies.
  • Learn about affiliated research labs at universities focused on applied physics research.
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Graduate students in physics, electrical engineering professionals, and anyone considering a transition from academia to industry, particularly in signal processing and data analysis roles.

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<Moderator note: Moved from academic guidance to career guidance on Scott92's request. Reason: The question primarily addresses job opportunities in dependence of PhD subject.>

Hey everyone,

I'm a student who is currently undertaking a Master of Physics (coursework & research) at the University of Western Australia. I have also previously completed two Bachelor's degrees: one in physics and one in electrical engineering (with honours). Next year, I am hoping to start a PhD in HEP somewhere in Australia, however, I am really struggling to choose between doing a highly theoretical topic (physics beyond the SM such as supersymmetry, string theory, etc.) or doing a topic that is closer to the experimental front (which would involve analyzing data provided by ATLAS and getting my hands dirty).

My inability to choose stems from the fear that following my passion (theory beyond the SM) will mean that not only will my research have no industry relevance, but that I will also have a VERY hard time finding academic jobs relevant to my field (I've heard through the grapevine that you have more chance of becoming a professional athlete than becoming a professor in theoretical HEP which is honestly quite dejecting). Choosing the experimental option might make landing an academic position easier (correct me if I'm wrong), and would at least provide me some skills in signal/data analysis (which is honestly a very interesting area to me as well) that I could apply to some areas in industry.

However as I mentioned before, understanding physics beyond the SM is undoubtedly my passion so I would really like to pursue a PhD in it to determine whether or not it can become more than just a hobby. I've heard of theoretical HEP PhD's going into finance, etc. when finding an academic position proved fruitless, but if I'm being honest, that doesn't sound all that appealing to me. Which leads me to my main question:

In case I can't find an academic position in theoretical HEP, do you think my EE degree and MPhys (both of which involved experimental research projects highly focused on signal processing and data analysis) would be sufficient credentials to land a job in engineering/signal processing/data analysis? Or perhaps if I'm lucky, even some area of industry research (if so, what areas)?

Further, do you think having a PhD in theoretical HEP, in addition to my other credentials, would be a benefit or a hindrance in securing these types of jobs?


Some potentially relevant information:
  • I have a GPA of 7.0 and a WAM of 90
  • I have 12 weeks of work experience at an electrical engineering company
  • My EE research project involved analyzing audio signals to achieve desired acoustic properties
  • My MPhys research project is about detecting gravitational waves which involves heavy signal processing and manipulating large sets of data (100GB+) using python
  • By the end of this year my MPhys research should produce at least 1 or 2 papers in the Physical Review Letters journal
  • I have a strong background in QFT & GR as well associated mathematical fields like group theory and differential geometry
 
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Where I work signal processing is a big component of the job. We have PhD level physicists from several fields doing primarily signal processing work. You should have no difficulty in finding work.

I would go with your passion now because you can and things will work themselves out.
 
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jedishrfu said:
Where I work signal processing is a big component of the job. We have PhD level physicists from several fields doing primarily signal processing work. You should have no difficulty in finding work.

I would go with your passion now because you can and things will work themselves out.
That is very comforting to hear! If I may ask, what is the exact nature of these jobs these physics PhD's are undertaking? And what is the general job title given to them, if any? (I would like to know this for future reference if looking for industry jobs becomes a necessity)
 

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