MHB Struggling with Logarithmic Expansion - Can You Help?

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The discussion focuses on expanding the logarithmic expression log[(x+epsilon)^2 + y^2] as epsilon approaches 0. The key approach involves expanding around x^2 + y^2 and using the logarithmic identity log(1 + a) for simplification. Participants clarify that log(x^2 + y^2) should remain fixed during the expansion. The final expansion simplifies to include terms like (2*x*epsilon)/(x^2 + y^2) along with higher-order terms. Overall, the thread provides a clear method for tackling the logarithmic expansion problem.
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Hello guys,

I am finding difficulties expanding log[(x+epsilon)^2 + y^2] as epsilon->0.

Could anyone help me with the expansion?

Kindest regards
 
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Tranquillity said:
Hello guys,

I am finding difficulties expanding log[(x+epsilon)^2 + y^2] as epsilon->0.

Could anyone help me with the expansion?

Kindest regards

Welcome to MHB, Tranquillity! :)

You would have to expand around $x^2+y^2$.
To do so, it's easiest if you use:

\[\log((x+\varepsilon)^2+y^2)=\log\left({x^2+y^2+2x \varepsilon +\varepsilon^2 \over x^2 + y^2}(x^2+y^2)\right) = \log\left(1 + {2x\varepsilon +\varepsilon^2 \over x^2 + y^2}\right) + \log(x^2+y^2)\]

Do you know how to expand that?
 
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ILikeSerena said:
Welcome to MHB, Tranquillity! :)

You would have to expand around $x^2+y^2$.
To do so, it's easiest if you use:

$\log((x+\varepsilon)^2+y^2)=\log({x^2+y^2+2x \varepsilon +\varepsilon^2 \over x^2 + y^2}(x^2+y^2)) = \log(1 + {2x\varepsilon +\varepsilon^2 \over x^2 + y^2}) + \log(x^2+y^2)$

Do you know how to expand that?

I could use that log(1+a) = a-a^2/2+... for the first parenthesis right?

But then how should I expand log(x^2+y^2)?

Thanks for that!
 
Tranquillity said:
I could use that log(1+a) = a-a^2/2+... for the first parenthesis right?

But then how should I expand log(x^2+y^2)?

Thanks for that!

Right!

You're not supposed to expand $\log(x^2+y^2)$.
It's supposed to be fixed.
 
ILikeSerena said:
Right!

You're not supposed to expand $\log(x^2+y^2)$.
It's supposed to be fixed.

So my overall expansion should be [(2*x*epsilon + epsilon^2) / (x^2+y^2) ] + log(x^2+y^2) ?

Thanks for all the help, it is greatly appreciated :)
 
Tranquillity said:
So my overall expansion should be [(2*x*epsilon + epsilon^2) / (x^2+y^2) ] + log(x^2+y^2) ?

Thanks for all the help, it is greatly appreciated :)

In an expansion you get $\displaystyle\left[{2*x*\varepsilon + \varepsilon^2 \over x^2+y^2} - \frac 1 2 \left({2*x*\varepsilon + \varepsilon^2 \over (x^2+y^2)}\right)^2 + ...\right.$

At first order this simplifies to:

$\displaystyle{2*x*\varepsilon \over x^2+y^2} + ...$
 
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Thanks for all the help!

Kindest regards
 

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