Stupid question on anomalous magnetic moment of the electron

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The discussion revolves around the anomalous magnetic moment of the electron, specifically focusing on the vertex corrections in quantum electrodynamics (QED) and the contributions from different terms in the calculations. Participants explore the relevance of finite and divergent terms in the vertex correction and their implications for the magnetic moment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why the finite contribution in the vertex correction term \(\Lambda^{(1)}_{\mu}\) is not considered in the calculation of the magnetic moment, suggesting that it contains both divergent and finite parts.
  • Another participant references Peskin & Schroeder, indicating that only the \(\Lambda^{(2)}\) term is relevant for the anomalous magnetic moment, as \(\Lambda^{(1)}\) approaches 1 when momentum transfer \(q\) approaches 0.
  • Some participants note that the first form factor becomes 1 in the zero momentum transfer case, while expressing uncertainty about the specifics of Ryder's treatment compared to Peskin & Schroeder.
  • One participant calculates \(\Lambda^{(1)}_{\mu}\) and concludes that its finite term, being proportional to the matrix \(\gamma_{\mu}\), does not contribute to the magnetic moment but only to the form factor \(F_1\).
  • Another participant discusses the interpretation of the form factors in the non-relativistic limit, suggesting that \(F_1(0)\) represents the unit of charge and \(F_2(0)\) relates to the electron's magnetic moment.
  • There is a suggestion that only a part of the finite term \(\Lambda^{(2)}_{\mu}\) contributes to the form factor \(F_2\) and thus to the magnetic moment of the electron.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance and contribution of the finite terms in the vertex corrections, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved regarding their impact on the anomalous magnetic moment.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference different texts and interpretations, which may lead to varying understandings of the vertex corrections and their contributions. There is also mention of assumptions regarding the behavior of terms as momentum transfer approaches zero.

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I don't understand one think: when we calculated the correction of the magnetic moment of the electron, we consider only the finite terms of the vertex correction that non depend on the parameter μ. Using Ryder notation , we consider only

\bar{u}(p')(γμ+\Lambdaμ(2))u(p)

but there is also another finite contribution in \Lambdaμ(1)
\Lambdaμ(1) = divergent + finite

, why we don't consider that? some book to view this?
 
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paolorossi said:
, why we don't consider that? some book to view this?
Try Peskin & Schroeder. If I remember correctly, they show how only the ##\Lambda^{(2)}## term you mentioned is relevant to the anomalous magnetic moment, because the ##\Lambda^{(1)}## term goes to 1 as ##q\to 0##. (I'm guessing here that Ryder's ##\Lambda## corresponds to P&S's ##F##.)
 
yes,there are two form factors .The first of which becomes 1 in zero momentum transfer case.However I have not read ryder,so may be it is something different.I will reply after taking a look somewhere else.
 
yes,there are two form factors .The first of which becomes 1 in zero momentum transfer case.However I have not read ryder,so may be it is something different.I will reply after taking a look somewhere else.
thanks . however the \Lambdaμ is the vertex correction... when the ryder regularize it, whit the dimensional method, he writes it as the sum of two terms: \Lambda(2)μ that is convergent, and \Lambda(1)μ that contains the divergent term plus a finite term. Then he calculates the quantity
\bar{u}(p')(\gammaμ+\Lambdaμ(2))u(p)
whit q=p'-p (q is the momentum associated to the external photon ) different fo zero. He find the correction:
g/2=1+α/2π

but why he doesn't consider the finite term in \Lambda(1)μ ?
 
strangerep said:
Try Peskin & Schroeder. If I remember correctly, they show how only the ##\Lambda^{(2)}## term you mentioned is relevant to the anomalous magnetic moment, because the ##\Lambda^{(1)}## term goes to 1 as ##q\to 0##. (I'm guessing here that Ryder's ##\Lambda## corresponds to P&S's ##F##.)

thanks now I try to read something
 
ok now I understand. I calculate Λ(1)μ : the finite term in it is proportional to the matrix γμ, so it doesn't give any contribution to the magentic moment of the electron ( it contributes only to the form factor F1 )

certain that the ryder could write instead of "finite" in the expression of Λ(1)μ the term itself, or say something about ...
 
they are just the form factors.By taking the non relativistic limit you can interpret F1(0) as the unit of charge(zero momentum transfer case it is 1) and other factor F2(0) which using gordon identity can be interpreted as electron having a magnetic moment (1+F2(0)) which interacts with magnetic field .
 
they are just the form factors
... I think it's more correct to say that they are connected to form factors, in fact, using the identity of gordon we find that only a part of the finite term \Lambda(2)μ contributes to the form factor F2 , and so to the magnetic moment of the electron... anyway thanks to all for your answers, bye
 

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