Styrofoam cup in pressure cooker

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a styrofoam cup in a pressure cooker, particularly focusing on the expansion and subsequent reduction in size of the cup due to changes in pressure and temperature. Participants explore the physical processes involved, including the effects of air pressure in the cup's tiny air pockets and the melting of styrofoam under high temperatures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the styrofoam cup expands initially due to the pressure of the air in the tiny pockets, but later reduces in size due to the high pressure of water vapor compressing these pockets.
  • Another participant questions what happens to the air in the pockets as the temperature rises and how this affects the surrounding material.
  • It is mentioned that styrofoam has a low melting point, which could lead to melting if left in the pressure cooker for too long.
  • Participants discuss the bursting of air bubbles within the cup, suggesting that the pressure in the bubbles increases until they can no longer expand, leading to their collapse.
  • There is a suggestion that the air from the burst bubbles mixes with the air in the pressure cooker.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses about the behavior of the styrofoam cup, with no clear consensus on the exact mechanisms at play. Multiple competing views regarding the expansion and reduction processes remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully clarify the assumptions regarding the behavior of air under changing temperatures and pressures, nor do they resolve the specific conditions that lead to the melting of styrofoam.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring material properties under pressure, the behavior of gases in confined spaces, and the thermal effects on polymers like styrofoam.

Oomph!
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Hello.
If you give a styrofoam cup to pressure cooker, it expand first, but than it extremely reduce. It reduce because the high pressure of the water vapor within the pressure cooker compresses or squeezes the tiny air pockets within the styrofoam cup and reduces the size of the cup, ok.
But why it expand first? And why it will melt, if you leave it in the pressure cooker too long?

Thank you very much.
 
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What happens with the air in the tiny air pockets as its temperature rises? What happens with the stuff in which the tiny air pockets exist along that way?
 
And why it will melt, if you leave it in the pressure cooker too long?

its really hot in the pressure cooker and Styrofoam has a very low melting point :smile:

Dave
 
The air in air pockets have bigger pressure, so it can make cup expand. But why it reduce than?
 
Oomph! said:
The air in air pockets have bigger pressure, so it can make cup expand. But why it reduce than?

so what do you think happens when the air pocket bubbles burst ?



Dave
 
So, the cup will be reduce. Buw why the air bubless burst?
 
Oomph! said:
So, the cup will be reduce. Buw why the air bubless burst?

think about what is happening to the air in the bubbles as it heats up

when you answer that question you will have the answer to the bursting bubbles :smile:


Dave
 
The bubble has bigger pressure and if it can, it expand. But in one while it can not expand. So, it burst? It is like a soap bubble? And where will go the air from the bursted bubbles? To the cooker?
 
yes, will mix into the air in the cooker
so lots of bubbles expanding and bursting release their little bits of air and the remaining Styrofoam collapses and its area decreases in size :smile:

Dave
 

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