Substituting for the entire integrand

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The discussion revolves around the technique of substituting for an entire integrand in the context of integration, specifically focusing on the integral of the function \(\sqrt{\frac{e^x-1}{e^x+1}}\). Participants explore the implications and commonality of this substitution method.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a surprising experience with substituting the entire integrand during integration, noting that it led back to the original integrand.
  • Another participant suggests that the substitutions are simply a change of variables intended to simplify calculations.
  • A participant expresses curiosity about the commonality of substituting the entire integrand and in which cases this technique might be applicable.
  • One participant explains the necessity of substituting for the derivative when making a substitution and provides an example with the exponential function to illustrate the concept.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether substituting the entire integrand is a common technique, and there are varying perspectives on the nature and implications of such substitutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the need to substitute for derivatives when changing variables, but the discussion does not resolve the broader question of the technique's commonality or applicability.

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Hello,

I found something surprising (at least to me) while looking at the following integral:
[tex]\int \sqrt{\frac{e^x-1}{e^x+1}} dx[/tex]
Wolfram Alpha suggests the following substitution as the first step:
[tex]u = \frac{1}{e^x+1}[/tex]
Which leads to the following integral:
[tex]\int \frac{\sqrt{1-2u}}{(u-1)u} du[/tex]
The next substitution is:
[tex]s = \sqrt{1-2u}[/tex]
From there, the solution is just a partial fraction decomposition away. Thinking that one should be able to do both substitutions in one step, I plugged [itex]u[/itex] into [itex]s[/itex] and got:
[tex]s = \sqrt{1-\frac{2}{e^x+1}} = \sqrt{\frac{e^x-1}{e^x+1}}[/tex]
So, this is the original integrand that was substituted here! I don't remember having learned this technique. Does this approach of substituting the whole integrand have a name?

Thank you!David
 
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This is just another change of variables. It was done in two steps just to reduce the complexity of calculations.
 
I understand this - maybe I wasn't clear enough.
What surprises me here is that, using those substitutions, we effectively substituted for the entire original integrand.
I don't remember having seen such a thing before, and I am wondering whether this is common and in which cases it works.
 
Any time you make a substitution, u= u(x), you have to also substitute for the derivative, dx. Here, with [itex]u= \left(\frac{e^x- 1}{e^x+ 1}\right)[/itex] we have [itex]u'= \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{e^x- 1}{e^x+ 1}\right)^{-1/2}\left(\frac{e^u- 1}{e^u+ 1}\right)dx= \frac{1}{2}\left(\frac{e^x- 1}{e^x+ 1}\right)^{1/2} dx[/itex] so that [itex]2du= \left(\frac{e^x- 1}{e^x+ 1}\right)^{1/2} dx[/itex], what you are referring to as "substituting for the entire integral".

That is, basically, a result of the fact that [itex]e^x[/itex] is its own derivative. A much simpler example would be [itex]\int e^x dx[/itex]. Making the substitution [itex]u= e^x[/itex] which give [itex]e^x dx= du[/itex] and the integral becomes [itex]\int du[/itex].
 
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Thank you! It is clear to me now.
 

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