Substitution technique for integral

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ∫ x5 √(x4 – 4) dx, focusing on the use of substitution techniques and integration tables. Participants explore various methods to approach the problem, including substitution and integration by parts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the potential use of substitution with u = x4 – 4 and the implications of the hint suggesting x5 = (x3)(x2). Some question the relevance of introducing variables a and a2. Others suggest integration by parts or even trigonometric substitution as possible techniques, while some express uncertainty about their familiarity with these methods.

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The discussion is active, with various participants offering insights and alternative approaches. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of substitution and integration by parts, though there is no clear consensus on the best method to proceed. Participants continue to explore different interpretations and techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations in their knowledge of integration techniques, such as trigonometric substitution, which may affect their ability to apply certain methods. Additionally, there is a reference to a limited table of integrals that may not include the necessary forms for this problem.

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I need to use a substitution technique and then the table of integration to integrate the following:
∫ x5 √(x4 – 4) dx

and i am given a hint which is x5 = (x3)(x2)

I would assume that
u = x4 – 4, then du = 4x3
and that at some point a2 = 4 and a = 2

However, the x5 = (x3)(x2) is confusing the heck out of me. Need help!
 
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What do a^2 and a have to do with anything?

The hint looks to me like it's guiding you to use integration by parts. Is that a technique that you have learned yet? I wouldn't advise it unless you have exhausted the possibilities for ordinary substitutions, however.
 
What, so you have a limited table of integrals that doesn't include this and you are suggested a substitution to give you a form you can find in your table?

I think the point of the x5 = x3x2 is to use the x3 as you have suggested with your u = x4 - 4. You can substitute for the extra x2 like this:

x4 = u+4, x2 = sqrt(u+4)

This will give you a pure u integral that may be in your table.
 
The reason i used a^2 = 4 and a = 2 is because in the book they used a number of different examples where they changed the number to a letter.

We have touched on integration by parts but everything we did learned involved using
ex so I am not really sure how to use it here.
 
It can be done with trig substitution I believe. Setting x^4/4 to (x^2/2)^2 and substituting for cos(theta).

∫ x5 √(x4 – 4) dx

∫ x5 2√(x4/4 – 1) dx

∫ x5 2√((x2/2)^2 – 1) dx

d/dx cosΘ = d/dx x^2/2]
[2cosΘ] = x^2]
[4cos^2(Θ)] = x^4]

-sinΘ dΘ = 2x dx∫ x5 2√((x2/2)^2 – 1) dx

∫ x^4(2x)√((x2/2)^2 – 1) dx
∫4cos^2(Θ) (-sinΘ)sinΘ dΘAnd then from there it's pretty simple... Is that right?
 
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I haven't learned how to use trig substitutions yet so that will not help. Thanks for tip anyways.
 
x5√(x4 - 4) = x2∙x3√(x4 - 4)
and you can use integration by parts on that.
 
Would this be correct?
∫ x5 √(x4 – 4) dx
= ∫ ((x2*x2*x √(x4 – 4)) dx


Let u = x2, then du/2 = xdx
= ∫ 1/2 (u2√u2 – 4) du

Let a = 4 and a2 = 2
= ∫(u2√u2 – a2) du
= [x(u2 – a2)3/2 / 4] + [a2x√(u2 – a2) / 8] – (a4/8) ln(x + √(u2 – a2))
 
It looks like you are using formula #10 here.

If so, you final result should not have u or a in it. You also need the constant of integration, which is needed in all indefinite integrals.
 

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